German environmental sticker query

[PH5121]

I am going to Germany next month and am aware of the need for one of the environmental stickers for driving in Stuttgart.

I have looked at the on line process on the TUV website and it looks simple enough, but it requires part 1 of the registration document to be e-mailed across. In essence I don't know what bit to send as our V5 document isn't broken down in such a manner. If anyone has done the application what have you sent them? the whole thing or just the first couple of pages?

Any advice gratefully received.

Paul

[supersport]

Off to the factory Paul, have a good trip.

[PH5121]

How did you guess Mark.

Yes, I am off with my dad. We just haven't decided which car to go in so thought we better get the stickers for both.
It should be a good trip as we are visiting the R8 production line at Audi as well as the Porsche factory and museum.

[agtlaw]

pointless exercise for a UK car.

[PH5121]

Why pointless if you don't mind me asking?

[GuitarPlayer63]

I'm going to Dusseldorf for a couple of weeks in May and just last week applied to the TUV for the pass for there. I scanned the 4 pages of the V5 and sent them, that seemed to be enough as the green disc arrived yesterday in the post.

Good luck in getting it.

[PH5121]

I will be doing the same tonight with my V5 and hope it comes as quickly as yours did.

[Hugo a Gogo]

the single most wasteful and ludicrous thing they've ever done

all this extra bureaucracy, all the billions wiped off the value of old cars and vans

benefit to air quality in the cities? zero

[dcb]

Hugo a Gogo said:

the single most wasteful and ludicrous thing they've ever done

all this extra bureaucracy, all the billions wiped off the value of old cars and vans

benefit to air quality in the cities? zero

I think you'll find that the German authorities see
it as a convenient tax raising exercise rather than any
serious attempt to clean up their cities.

Personally, I've voted with my feet on this.

I've stopped driving into the green zones.
I've also stopped staying at hotels in the green zones.

I now use hotels outside the zones, and if I have
to go in, use public transport or my feet.

Not only have I saved a fortune on City Centre hotels,
I've done my health some good too.

[Hugo a Gogo]

I rarely drive into the city, but for example to go to the airport, or to do a 'big shop' in town, I have to (or do a massive detour)
and the zone is expanding to within a mile of my house

[PH5121]

The sticker arrived today, very impressed with the speed of it coming.

[Utterpiffle]

GuitarPlayer63 said:

I'm going to Dusseldorf for a couple of weeks in May and just last week applied to the TUV for the pass for there. I scanned the 4 pages of the V5 and sent them, that seemed to be enough as the green disc arrived yesterday in the post.

Good luck in getting it.

Work or pleasure? Make sure you pay a visit here:

http://www.remise.de/

Best car museum I've ever been to. Classic car workshops around the outside, they restore the cars, then place them in the central hall for sale. Very fluid exhibits. I have lived here 2 years, I visit every few months and it is a different place every time! Oh, and it free to get in

Ah yes, and there is the beer in Altstadt.. Hrm, I love this city, could go on about it for ages...

[Utterpiffle]

dcb said:

I think you'll find that the German authorities see
it as a convenient tax raising exercise rather than any
serious attempt to clean up their cities.

Personally, I've voted with my feet on this.

I've stopped driving into the green zones.
I've also stopped staying at hotels in the green zones.

I now use hotels outside the zones, and if I have
to go in, use public transport or my feet.

Not only have I saved a fortune on City Centre hotels,
I've done my health some good too.

Never bothered getting a sticker. Been living within the umweltzone boundary for two years.

It'll be bloody typical that I now get a pull this evening...

[estutjaweh]

To be honest, I'd just go to the TÜV people with your documents upon arrival. All they need to read you emissions class, tell you if your 2, 3, or 4 and ask for about €5. Thats is, they write the car Reg on the sticker and tell you to stick it in the windscreen.

If they can't do it based on the fact that your car is not D registered, then get it in writing and your still okay.

[Utterpiffle]

estutjaweh said:

To be honest, I'd just go to the TÜV people with your documents upon arrival. All they need to read you emissions class, tell you if your 2, 3, or 4 and ask for about €5. Thats is, they write the car Reg on the sticker and tell you to stick it in the windscreen.

If they can't do it based on the fact that your car is not D registered, then get it in writing and your still okay.

Which is all good advice if you speak German... Also, they charge €25 for foreign cars. Admin fee apparently.

[Hugo a Gogo]

I don't actually know how they enforce this, I don't think it's by camera - just if a cop stops you? or Ordnungsamt too?

[Utterpiffle]

Hugo a Gogo said:

I don't actually know how they enforce this, I don't think it's by camera - just if a cop stops you? or Ordnungsamt too?

Definitely not camera enforced, and can't see why they would. Typically, if Germans are presented with a rule, they obey it without question!

I did get given a dodgy green sticker off a chap in a mobile phone shop a few years ago, as my 30 year old motorhome would never qualify. He said that it is a stupid system as it is run by the city authorities and they have the database, but enforced by the police who don't have access. Therefore my dodgy sticker would be perfectly safe to display as the police would never be able to prove if it was legitimate or not. I never did have the nerve to put it in the window though as I figured ignorance was probably a better defence than fraud!

[Hugo a Gogo]

i know you can get 'pretend' ones off Ebay

that's probably easier and just as safe

[krallicious]

They are enforced by the police but I have never had a problem. Coincidently I received a free one form the local BMW garage a couple of days ago after asking about them.

[mrmr96]

dcb said:

I think you'll find that the German authorities see
it as a convenient tax raising exercise rather than any
serious attempt to clean up their cities.

Personally, I've voted with my feet on this.

I've stopped driving into the green zones.
I've also stopped staying at hotels in the green zones.

I now use hotels outside the zones, and if I have
to go in, use public transport or my feet.

Not only have I saved a fortune on City Centre hotels,
I've done my health some good too.

The irony here, perhaps, is that "voting with your feet" to avoid the tax is having precisely the impact of cleaning up the air in the zones, as you've just confirmed that you don't drive in - instead you walk or take public transport.