French Speeding

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6EWORP4

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5 posts

183 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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I wonder if anyone can give me some advice, apart from on my recklessness, or have had a similar experience, about being stopped for speeding in France?

I was stopped near Rouen on almost deserted motorway doing 180kph. I paid an on the spot fine of Euro 750 and was summonsed to appear at the Magistrates Court in Bernay in October. Luckily my brother-in-law was with me and was insured, otherwise they would have impounded the car. My licence was confiscated and I was allowed to go on my way.

Being very, very contrite and apologetic made no difference to the very professional and polite Gendarmes who stopped me.

Does anyone know the answers to these questions? Any help would be much appreciated.

Is a custodial sentence possible?
What type of fine could I expect?
If I fail to turn up in person will they persue me in the English Courts?
Does the sentence have any repercussions for my driving in the UK and my UK insurance?

Thanks.

PottyMouth

470 posts

203 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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The "fine" was actually a deposit to ensure you attend court (which they know you are unlikely to do).

If you don't attend, then you lose your "deposit". The chances of being pursued in the UK are infinitessimally tiny. If you don't attend court, however, it would not be a good idea to return to France in the same vehicle any time soon.

This matter has absolutely no bearing on your right to drive in the UK, nor do you need to inform your insurance company.

Edited by PottyMouth on Monday 24th August 13:51

6EWORP4

Original Poster:

5 posts

183 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Thanks. Do you know what the court sanctions are likely to be?

PottyMouth

470 posts

203 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Please don't rely on this post as legal advice!!

I've read a few previous cases where the defendant received a few months' ban from driving in France.

6EWORP4

Original Poster:

5 posts

183 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Understood. Thanks for your help.

geordieexpat

482 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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180kmh oops

I was caught at 160 and got fined 90€ - but I was driving a french car with french ins as I live in france (though Im english)

they never took my license but warned me any more serious speeding offences they would ask me to transfer my license to a french one!

They say 145 is the most they will let you off with, but im not so sure!

neil-f

1,647 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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What do they do with your licence when they take it away post it back to DVLA? or keep it in France?
Do you just have to apply for a replacement uk licence and say you lost the old one?

Balmoral Green

41,761 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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I was nicked at 172kmh last August, I was fined 90 euros and they took my licence and explained that I was banned, so Mrs BG had to drive. Anything 40kmh above the posted limit is an automatic ban. I was told that they would return my licence to me in the post, but they never did, so I just applied for a duplicate.

Over the last couple of years, France has become less tolerant over speeding, the 'You're nicked' thresholds are much lower than here, the same percentage above the limit here that wouldn't even see you getting pulled over will actually now get you banned on the spot in France. Inconvenient if you're a tourist, a job losing disaster if you're local.

We get off very lightly here in the UK.

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Been driving in France long time got my first ticket last week end 101k in 90 limit.
The system is that below 100 they allow -5k for speedo error so I was done for 96 over 100 allowance is -5%. Talking to a mate he got 58 in a 50 so -5 was done for 53k in a 50 It's tough. It was on a well known road N10 but they were so far off the roadside in a rest halt / layby that I did not think they were checking it's a dual carrageway with a 90 limit not 110 which is normal also lots of sections with 50k limit.
Just be careful.

Marcellus

7,164 posts

226 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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I'm sure I've said it before but I'll say it again;
"It is my understanding that the standing orders for all French Law enforcement officers (Gendarmes, Police Municipal, AVSPs etc etc) is that if they have nothing else to do then they are to go and monitor the speed in their area"

So basically you are as likely to see a speed trap on an Autoroute, Route Nationale, A or B road.... you have indeed been warned.

JelsT5

5 posts

183 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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leyorkie said:
Been driving in France long time got my first ticket last week end 101k in 90 limit.
The system is that below 100 they allow -5k for speedo error so I was done for 96 over 100 allowance is -5%. Talking to a mate he got 58 in a 50 so -5 was done for 53k in a 50 It's tough. It was on a well known road N10 but they were so far off the roadside in a rest halt / layby that I did not think they were checking it's a dual carrageway with a 90 limit not 110 which is normal also lots of sections with 50k limit.
Just be careful.
Too right- be very, very careful! I got a €45 fine for doing 96 in a 90 zone...minus the 5kmh meant I was only 1kmh over the limit frown They're stricter than strict regarding speeding. Just go to Germany if you want to let rip, works for me!

jvr

789 posts

254 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Whats happened to the french?I'm going to the Vosges in a couple of days and I know of a bit of road near St Dizier where it keeps changing limits from dual carriageway to single several times and they wait either in their white vans with cams or blue renaults,i'm always careful there
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Abbott

2,622 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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jvr said:
Whats happened to the french?I'm going to the Vosges in a couple of days and I know of a bit of road near St Dizier where it keeps changing limits from dual carriageway to single several times and they wait either in their white vans with cams or blue renaults,i'm always careful there
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It has been like that for years. It all changed in December 2002 when the following happened..

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Police and rescue workers were still searching a river in southern France last night for the body of one of five young volunteer firemen killed by a speeding driver in a tragedy that has horrified the country.

The five firemen, all from the small town of Loriol-sur-Drome near Valence, were part of a group of nine working at the scene of another accident on a motorway bridge over the river Drome on Friday night when an 81-year old man driving at more than 90mph - twice the speed limit - ploughed into them.

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Chirac made a pledge to change the counties record on speeding. From then on more cameras have been put in place and police are always out looking to get speeding drivers.

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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I remember it being part of the deal when this goverment was elected along with the abolition of road tax, the flip side being they would get tough on speeding.

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Main news tonight on TF1 a lower speed limit of 110kph to be trialed on more autoroutes, many Departments in favour of lower limit.
Central gov will look at trial results and consider

bored-of-coding

1,285 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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yes I read that ... but we might as well all go back to using the toll free roads if they impose this

neil-f

1,647 posts

214 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Just back from France 2000 mile trip roads very quiet this time not much activity on Autoroute with speeding but on the section up to Calais yesterday afternoon 3 UK police motorcycle cops kept going past me at well over 100mph with blue lights blazing then would stop at the next exit got off bike and look back up the road! What was all this about? This went on for many miles!

leyorkie

1,682 posts

183 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Good trip Neil.
Last Friday, just back from the supermarket 12Ks, 2 motobike police checking in a place not seen before. Luckily drivers coming the other way flashed and I dropped from 100k to 85k. They did look bored!
The thing is you never know where they will be.

andyleeds

668 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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i got pulled at 176 kmh, the policeman was a very nice chap, he showed me a little matrix that he had with him and the 177 kmh was highlighted......he said that was a ban. so all i got was a 90 euro fine......which i was happy with as earlier i was quite a bit faster than that.....

Marcellus

7,164 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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andyleeds said:
i got pulled at 176 kmh, the policeman was a very nice chap, he showed me a little matrix that he had with him and the 177 kmh was highlighted......he said that was a ban. so all i got was a 90 euro fine......which i was happy with as earlier i was quite a bit faster than that.....
In my experience they usually are quite civil about it all........ btw the €90 was merely a deposit 50/50 whether you'll ever hear anything else from them though....