Buying an old car with CG not in sellers name

Buying an old car with CG not in sellers name

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crossy67

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1,570 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Morning all got a few questions for those of you who are more in the know than I.

I've had a hankering for an older model, something from the 70's. I've seen this one come up for the past 12 months or so (it's not a model the French would like) and went to see it the 1st time it was advertised. It's in great condition but the carte grise is not in the sellers name. It looks like he bought it and parked it up in his garage where it has stated for the last 10 years.

What sort of a problem is this likely to be?

Also, it's a 1.3, I' like to fit a 2.0, there were models around with this engine in. Is this possible and again, what sort of trouble would I be letting my self in for?

Thanks chaps.

sunbeam alpine

7,059 posts

194 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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I wouldn't worry about the CG not being in the sellers name, so long as you both sign a sales agreement. Are you wanting to register it in France or import into the UK?

Regarding the engine swap, it might be helpful to at least know the make/model.

crossy67

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1,570 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Thanks for the reply.

It will be kept in France and is a Taunus, 1.3 yuk.

crossy67

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185 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Anyone? I know it might not be the most PHesque car but it will still need registeringbiggrin.

Terryg4

233 posts

104 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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What year? Pinto or Crossflow or if very old Pre Crossflow?

Terry

crossy67

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185 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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It's about 1980 1.3 Pinto. Really clean car that's been stored in a garage for years. The seller says he has history but I'm not too confident about that. He also said it was a GT because someone had put stickers on it with GT on them.

We went to see the car on the way home from a trip last year, the seller said it was okay and he's meet us there, he was nowhere to be seen so we dealt with his dad. When we arrived it was buried under a mountain of crap, I could barely get to it. Eventually I climbed over to it, it was really clean, really really clean and it's the Mk4 which I'd prefer, just don't fancy the glacial 0-60 times. It's been advertised a few times over the past year.

Terryg4

233 posts

104 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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I don't belwive there are any problems , although you may have to use a different flywheel if you are keeping the gearbox
I think the engines are pretty interchangable between series

Good luck , Twin 40's look good on Pinto!

crossy67

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185 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Thanks Terry.

The mechanical side of the modification is easy, I'm a mechanic. It's the bureaucratic nightmare I could be unleashing on my self with changing the fiscal power, not sure it's even allowed.

Vintage Racer

624 posts

151 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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The French really do not like 'modified' cars, so probably worth having a chat with your regional FFVE representative (they are all listed on the FFVE website).

Back in the day, I was forever dropping V6 engines in to Anglia 105e's etc, 4" chopped out of the roof, 'Classic' struts with discs on the front and van springs on the rear.........Can you imagine asking the French to deal with that scenario!!!

Bonne Chance Mon Ami

Glynn

Expatloon

216 posts

163 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Without the registered owners signature on the crossed CG and a Certificat de Cession filled in and signed by him too registration will be impossible.

crossy67

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1,570 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Officially yes but in practice the prefecture tend to be more bothered about who's going to be paying them the dosh rather than who's sold the car. There must be a way of doing it officially to or France would be littered with unregistered cars. What would happen if for example I found a Bugati in my shed that had been there for 50 years after to previous owner died of a heart attack?

Terryg4

233 posts

104 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I think it will depend on the local prefecture , or more accurately who serves you on the day!

We have had instances where they have been super strick and want to see a total audit trail of ownership and other times they were only fixated on whether the car was mainly green or mainly yellow (I had a yellow and green Caterham)