DVLA check equivalent???

[LDN]

Apologies if I have asked this already... I have finally found a car here in France that will live here. I wanted to know, is there a DVLA check equivalent? Like in the UK, you can text a car reg' to one of these reg check services and you get a reply with owners, history, any crashes, etc...

Thanks!

Edited by LDN on Friday 8th January 10:33

[Fatt McMissile]

As well as the carte grise (logbook) in his name, marked "vendu", the seller must provide you with a certificat de cession and a certificat de non gage when he sells you the car, they are the proof that he has the right to sell it to you; without them and a sales receipt you will not be able to register it.

In the case of a vehicle that has been damaged and is the subject of an insurance claim, the Expert who examines the vehicle will inform the prefecture if the damage has adversely affected the integral security of the vehicle. The prefecture will then not issue a "certificat de cession" unless it has been correctly repared and "expertised" .

If a vehicle has been security for finance, the bank/finance company informs the prefecture. They will not issue a "certificat de non gage" until the outstanding loan is cleared.
Steve

[LDN]

Fatt McMissile said:

As well as the carte grise (logbook) in his name, marked "vendu", the seller must provide you with a certificat de cession and a certificat de non gage when he sells you the car, they are the proof that he has the right to sell it to you; without them and a sales receipt you will not be able to register it.

In the case of a vehicle that has been damaged and is the subject of an insurance claim, the Expert who examines the vehicle will inform the prefecture if the damage has adversely affected the integral security of the vehicle. The prefecture will then not issue a "certificat de cession" unless it has been correctly repared and "expertised" .

If a vehicle has been security for finance, the bank/finance company informs the prefecture. They will not issue a "certificat de non gage" until the outstanding loan is cleared.
Steve

Thank you very much I have noted all of this... it is a private sale but I assume the onus is still on the private seller to have the two certificates in order before sale? I have seen the Carte Grise and he has just had a CT done for us.

[Fatt McMissile]

I've had a look on the French government websites as a refresher, and I see that the certificat de non-gage may not be necessary in order to register the car in your name, but you should ask the seller to give you one or let you have a photocopy of the carte gris in advance so that you can get one. Depending on the prefecture it is possible to obtain one on line, I did so when I sold a car years ago. I see that not only does it cover outstanding finance, but also things like unpaid fines, speeding tickets etc. that may or may not fall to the new owner, but will definitely cause hassle.
The documents that you will need to take to register the car are here: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroi... and there are links to the forms (cerfa....) that you can print and fill in in advance. I don't think I've forgotten anything, if I have someone will pick it up:

- cerfa n°13750*05 filled in by you
- cerfa n°13754*02 Le certificat de cession original dûment rempli sans rature ni surcharge par le vendeur,
-L'ancienne carte grise (barrée et signée par le vendeur (or vendeurs if co owned) avec la mention " vendue le... ") dans le cas d'une vente,
-Le contrôle technique si nécessaire,
-Photocopie (recto-verso) d'un justificatif d'identité (passport) en cours de validité,
-Proof of your French address,
-Le certificat de non gage ou certificat de situation administrative (non obligatoire mais recommandé)
-cheque.

I don't think that you need a Quittus Fiscal if the car is already registered in France, if you do you can get one at your local tax office beforehand, take all your docs and the sales receipt.

Steve

[magooagain]

You may also want a carte Gris copy in order to insure the car for when you collect it.

[LDN]

Wow! Pistonheads delivers again. Thanks so much for all of your help. Much appreciated. Buying a car in France from a Frenchman who speaks not one jot of English hasn't been easy but it's been worth it. Thanks again. Hope to pick car up mid week.

[LDN]

Fatt McMissile said:

I've had a look on the French government websites as a refresher, and I see that the certificat de non-gage may not be necessary in order to register the car in your name, but you should ask the seller to give you one or let you have a photocopy of the carte gris in advance so that you can get one. Depending on the prefecture it is possible to obtain one on line, I did so when I sold a car years ago. I see that not only does it cover outstanding finance, but also things like unpaid fines, speeding tickets etc. that may or may not fall to the new owner, but will definitely cause hassle.
The documents that you will need to take to register the car are here: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroi... and there are links to the forms (cerfa....) that you can print and fill in in advance. I don't think I've forgotten anything, if I have someone will pick it up:

- cerfa n°13750*05 filled in by you
- cerfa n°13754*02 Le certificat de cession original dûment rempli sans rature ni surcharge par le vendeur,
-L'ancienne carte grise (barrée et signée par le vendeur (or vendeurs if co owned) avec la mention " vendue le... ") dans le cas d'une vente,
-Le contrôle technique si nécessaire,
-Photocopie (recto-verso) d'un justificatif d'identité (passport) en cours de validité,
-Proof of your French address,
-Le certificat de non gage ou certificat de situation administrative (non obligatoire mais recommandé)
-cheque.

I don't think that you need a Quittus Fiscal if the car is already registered in France, if you do you can get one at your local tax office beforehand, take all your docs and the sales receipt.

Steve

The proof of French address is the issue I have.... all the EDF and bills I have are addressed to my UK address... even though the bills state the French address for service - they are saying that the letter needs to actually be addressed to the French address - and not an English one! How do I get around that one??

What else can be used as a proof of address?

[Fatt McMissile]

Une photocopie de l'acte d'achat ou de l'acte de prêt hypothécaire notarié de votre propriété résidentielle (au complet) où figurent l'identification des parties (acheteur, vendeur ou établissement financier), la désignation des lieux (adresse de la propriété ou du bâtiment) et la signature des parties;

That's what we used to open a bank account before we moved here.

Steve