EDF bill............aaaaaagh
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Just got a bill demanding another 1000 euro to pay this years total
We used 16000 kwh last year andheat soleley by wood. EDF also want to put up the monthly take from 159.87 too 257 euro.
Does my usage seem about right,family of 4,big old house,teenagers charging everything all of the time.
We used 16000 kwh last year andheat soleley by wood. EDF also want to put up the monthly take from 159.87 too 257 euro.
Does my usage seem about right,family of 4,big old house,teenagers charging everything all of the time.
The 1000€ shortfall is very high if the 159€ monthly payments were based on your previous usage. Our shortfall/overcharge is always much closer to the payment than that.
In our small (by French standards), moderately insulated three bedroom house, heated by wood topped up by electricity, but also with electric water heating, and chargers/ pc always on, busy washing machine, all fluo/LED lighting , 2 people most of the time the annual EDF bill including standing charge was 780€ last year.
Steve
In our small (by French standards), moderately insulated three bedroom house, heated by wood topped up by electricity, but also with electric water heating, and chargers/ pc always on, busy washing machine, all fluo/LED lighting , 2 people most of the time the annual EDF bill including standing charge was 780€ last year.
Steve
Roughly €150 a month for us, well that's what EDF have just written and asked for, the actual average for last year was €141 and the previous year €144. 3300sq ft but well insulated barn conversion with geothermal heat pump system with underfloor heating downstairs and rads upstairs also driven by the geothermal pump topped up with a log burner in the lounge. I've been reading the meter daily this year and the usage overnight is roughly 25-30 units with between 30 and 55 during the day depending upon whether or not we have the hot water immersion on (we have solar panels - vacuum tube type - for the hot water normally), those are winter readings and the summer ones are 4-5 units overnight and 6-10 during the day.
We heat solely by an "insert" except an electric radiator in the bedroom and one, when it is very cold, at the end of the kitchen. Our bill is pretty stable at 1,600 euros per annum, but we do make every effort to use as much "heures creuses" as possible and our bill reflects this in that the split is about 50/50. We also benefit from the midday off-peak tariff which is most helpful, allowing us to run the dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer between 1230 and 1400. Our house has four bedrooms and two bathrooms by the way. Every November they up the direct debit by about 50 euros and I phone to reduce it since I see no reason to loan money to the EDF. Work it out for yourselves just how much interest free money they get each year in this way. I know many people who shrug saying it helps to fund their holidays. HTH
lowdrag said:
Every November they up the direct debit by about 50 euros and I phone to reduce it since I see no reason to loan money to the EDF. Work it out for yourselves just how much interest free money they get each year in this way. I know many people who shrug saying it helps to fund their holidays. HTH
Not in France, but here in Blighty. Electricity supplied by British Gas, water by Thames Water, both Co's paid by direct debit based on meter readings...discovered just prior to Christmas that BG had £476 of my money and TW £172. Called both Co's instructing them to return monies immediately as was furious neither Co' thought it their responsibility to notify their customer they were paying too high a payment against usage. Both BG and TW were reluctant/near argued to return monies, I confirmed they had 6 working days to do so or they'd be reported to the Ombudsmen and formal proceedings taken against them for loss of interest, my time in recovery and charged for malpractice; they paid immediately.What I find alarming is that there must be millions of people in the UK, and possibly France, who have accounts permanently in 'over' credit and the utility Co's do not deem it their responsibility to return the funds to their customers. This must do wonders for their cashflow...
When I was sorting out my late fathers affairs, it turned out that Southern Electricity had overcharged by direct debit to the tune of £700! Turns out my poor old Dad had been worrying himself sick over it as he thought it meant he was in arrears and owed them the money. When I took them to task over it, they tried to justify its as if doing my parents a favour in case their consumption suddenly rocketed, thus sparing them a hefty bill. Needless to say I gave them some straight talk and the money was refunded immediately, but the nerve of these b
ds astonishes me.
ds astonishes me.Just before Christmas we recieved a credit from Antargas for €1450. We are not in France during winter and so had been suggesting that we must be overpaid, but they kept saying that things would balance eventually. But it was never that transparent from their invoices.
Money just arrived in our account followed by estimated costs for next year.
It is a very good ruse, if you can get away with it.
Money just arrived in our account followed by estimated costs for next year.
It is a very good ruse, if you can get away with it.
I've been scratching my head wondering why most of yours (EDF bills) are so much bigger than mine and I'm developing a complex.........
Ok, I think that most of you live in bigger houses than we do, but this will only affect things drastically compared to us (780€ pa, 71€ pm )if you have electric heating or an electric hob- your fridges, dishwashers, washing machines, ovens, etc will get a similar usage to ours, a bit more of course if there are more than two people in your household. I have also been getting a remboursement on my abonnement that was 30 Euros last year.
Our three gites that are occupied for around 66 weeks per year (April-October) are also fully equipped electrically speaking and the bill for all three is about 800 Euros per year on an Option Tempo 3Ph 18KVA supply.
I'm not trying to teach granny to suck eggs (where did that come from?), but I wonder if you guys are on the best tarif for you and not paying high standing charges for a supply that you don't need? The difference between the lowest and highest standing charge is 650 odd Euros pa. https://particuliers.edf.com/offres-d-energie/elec...
?
Steve
Ok, I think that most of you live in bigger houses than we do, but this will only affect things drastically compared to us (780€ pa, 71€ pm )if you have electric heating or an electric hob- your fridges, dishwashers, washing machines, ovens, etc will get a similar usage to ours, a bit more of course if there are more than two people in your household. I have also been getting a remboursement on my abonnement that was 30 Euros last year.
Our three gites that are occupied for around 66 weeks per year (April-October) are also fully equipped electrically speaking and the bill for all three is about 800 Euros per year on an Option Tempo 3Ph 18KVA supply.
I'm not trying to teach granny to suck eggs (where did that come from?), but I wonder if you guys are on the best tarif for you and not paying high standing charges for a supply that you don't need? The difference between the lowest and highest standing charge is 650 odd Euros pa. https://particuliers.edf.com/offres-d-energie/elec...
?
Steve
I've not checked but as I understand it you can only have Blue tarif now and thats it for new customers.
We are on pro tarif and that is roughly 6 cents off peak and 9 the rest of the time.
I think I have nailed down the problem with my bill............no one ever turns the fking lights off!
We are on pro tarif and that is roughly 6 cents off peak and 9 the rest of the time.
I think I have nailed down the problem with my bill............no one ever turns the f
king lights off!v8250 said:
Not in France, but here in Blighty. Electricity supplied by British Gas, water by Thames Water, both Co's paid by direct debit based on meter readings...discovered just prior to Christmas that BG had £476 of my money and TW £172. Called both Co's instructing them to return monies immediately as was furious neither Co' thought it their responsibility to notify their customer they were paying too high a payment against usage. Both BG and TW were reluctant/near argued to return monies, I confirmed they had 6 working days to do so or they'd be reported to the Ombudsmen and formal proceedings taken against them for loss of interest, my time in recovery and charged for malpractice; they paid immediately.
What I find alarming is that there must be millions of people in the UK, and possibly France, who have accounts permanently in 'over' credit and the utility Co's do not deem it their responsibility to return the funds to their customers. This must do wonders for their cashflow...
Reading this made me just check and British Gas have £334 of mine for the gas and £118 for the electric.What I find alarming is that there must be millions of people in the UK, and possibly France, who have accounts permanently in 'over' credit and the utility Co's do not deem it their responsibility to return the funds to their customers. This must do wonders for their cashflow...
myvision said:
v8250 said:
Not in France, but here in Blighty. Electricity supplied by British Gas, water by Thames Water, both Co's paid by direct debit based on meter readings...discovered just prior to Christmas that BG had £476 of my money and TW £172. Called both Co's instructing them to return monies immediately as was furious neither Co' thought it their responsibility to notify their customer they were paying too high a payment against usage. Both BG and TW were reluctant/near argued to return monies, I confirmed they had 6 working days to do so or they'd be reported to the Ombudsmen and formal proceedings taken against them for loss of interest, my time in recovery and charged for malpractice; they paid immediately.
What I find alarming is that there must be millions of people in the UK, and possibly France, who have accounts permanently in 'over' credit and the utility Co's do not deem it their responsibility to return the funds to their customers. This must do wonders for their cashflow...
Reading this made me just check and British Gas have £334 of mine for the gas and £118 for the electric.What I find alarming is that there must be millions of people in the UK, and possibly France, who have accounts permanently in 'over' credit and the utility Co's do not deem it their responsibility to return the funds to their customers. This must do wonders for their cashflow...
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