The French part 3 (technology/online)

The French part 3 (technology/online)

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Le Pop

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4,998 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Sometimes they drive me bloody mental with their lack of response to phone calls, emails or anything Internet-based. It's like they just completely ignore you. That includes businesses and individuals, and is particularly annoying when they are trying to sell you something!

I find it 'kin incredible that entrepreneur is a French word!

...and breathe...

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Pvapour

8,981 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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Driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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I'm still waiting for the devis to do the garden in my practice. He said I'd have it two weeks ago.

Then I wanted to get a glass partition with door installed in the waiting room. I phone the manufacturer who asks me for technical détails, dimensions etc

I send said details and the reply? "Sorry there are no installers available so we can't follow up your request".

Is it 'cause I is English?

Expatloon

216 posts

164 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Le Pop said:
I find it 'kin incredible that entrepreneur is a French word!
Not according to GW !

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.asp

Ok so it's not actually true but it so so should be !

Russwhitehouse

962 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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I know what you mean chaps. I had no response to an on line quote request for flooring, a gardener who came round to quote but never did, ground works contractor who agreed to do some work but never turned up, land rover main dealer in Bordeaux who lost the carte Gris and the keys to the discovery, then denied all knowledge when we went to collect the car and refused to do anything to rectify matters. Having lived here for ten years I could bang on and on endlessly as I'm sure we all could. The sad thing now is that because of the way things are I have gone from always trying to use French artisans and businesses, to avoiding them at all costs, shopping online and using a group of good local brit builders. And the French accuse us of sticking with our own and not trying to integrate. Perhaps they should ask themselves why. Here endeth the rant.

Driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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I wish there were some Brit builders in the Paris area!


Pvapour

8,981 posts

260 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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maybe a swap for some dentistry work biggrin

Driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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Hey I'm all for it! Where are the buggers hiding?

Oh, wait a minute...could there be a PM involved here? hehe

iiyama

2,201 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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So then, as a qualified plumber and bricklayer, and a main line of work that includes bathroom and kitchen installations,(including all aspects of wall and floor tiling), a bloke who cut his teeth on roofing and internal/external painting and decorating......who wants me and where? biggrin

Russwhitehouse

962 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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I'm a plumbing and heating engineer by trade and served a four year apprenticeship. Unless you served two apprenticeships, how can you be qualified as a brickie and a plumber? The two trades are unconnected.

iiyama

2,201 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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Trained as a bricklayer in the late eighties when I was involved with general building work, started work as a roofer before this. Took C&G level II plumbing, (including NVQ for what it's worth), about five years ago as I changed direction and was mainly fitting bathrooms. Also have an unvented cert.

While working in the early eighties, (before self emplyment beckoned), I was mainly roofing due to all the grants that were around back then but also decorating. Unrelated crafts but there you go! That's how it was.

Got involved with kitchen fitting and have all the jigs and tool's required for this as well. Thought about getting sparks qualy's as well but as yet haven't done this.

Le Pop

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4,998 posts

241 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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Russwhitehouse said:
I know what you mean chaps. I had no response to an on line quote request for flooring, a gardener who came round to quote but never did, ground works contractor who agreed to do some work but never turned up, land rover main dealer in Bordeaux who lost the carte Gris and the keys to the discovery, then denied all knowledge when we went to collect the car and refused to do anything to rectify matters. Having lived here for ten years I could bang on and on endlessly as I'm sure we all could. The sad thing now is that because of the way things are I have gone from always trying to use French artisans and businesses, to avoiding them at all costs, shopping online and using a group of good local brit builders. And the French accuse us of sticking with our own and not trying to integrate. Perhaps they should ask themselves why. Here endeth the rant.
Exactly. I don't want to operate in a 'Brit bubble' but find increasingly that it is the only way to get stuff done. We live here in spite of the indigenous population rather than in harmony with it, which is not how we wanted it to be.

Frustrated of Normandy.

Perik Omo

2,052 posts

155 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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When we were converting our barn in 2005 we had a French plumber start to do the work, he connected up to the mains and ran the pipes to the central distribution point and said he would come back after the concrete for the floor had been poured. He didn't come back and we couldn't contact him and he hadn't billed us either. Two years ago he sent his bill and asked when we would like him to complete the plumbing work! Errm... 6 years after starting the job you want to come back and finish it???? Absolutely bonkers and couldn't understand why we had somebody else do the job.

mikey77

707 posts

195 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Le Pop said:
Russwhitehouse said:
I know what you mean chaps. I had no response to an on line quote request for flooring, a gardener who came round to quote but never did, ground works contractor who agreed to do some work but never turned up, land rover main dealer in Bordeaux who lost the carte Gris and the keys to the discovery, then denied all knowledge when we went to collect the car and refused to do anything to rectify matters. Having lived here for ten years I could bang on and on endlessly as I'm sure we all could. The sad thing now is that because of the way things are I have gone from always trying to use French artisans and businesses, to avoiding them at all costs, shopping online and using a group of good local brit builders. And the French accuse us of sticking with our own and not trying to integrate. Perhaps they should ask themselves why. Here endeth the rant.
Exactly. I don't want to operate in a 'Brit bubble' but find increasingly that it is the only way to get stuff done. We live here in spite of the indigenous population rather than in harmony with it, which is not how we wanted it to be.

Frustrated of Normandy.
Sounds sadly familiar...

gonzales_turbo

238 posts

216 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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I'm French. I'm going through this. Terrible terrible waste of time. Devis take ages to arrive, if and when they arrive. I'm not confident that the builders will arrive either... Plumbing, tiling, electricians, all in the same bag.

Russwhitehouse

962 posts

138 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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It's mad isn't it? I have several French friends who just shake their heads in embarrassed dis belief at some of the goings on with their countrymen. They have also switched on to the fact that head in the sand patriotism can be a costly and time consuming excercise and have also started buying online and getting stuff shipped over from UK and other places, thus saving a small fortune and actually getting things done before old age catches up. What is it? I just don't get it.

EnfantTerrible

21 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th October 2013
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When my parents came to France, they thought of getting an English guy to work on the house and convert the barn (the estate agent who sold us the house explained that her husband was a fantastic builder...ahum...). In the end, they did it themselves. The first walls were a bit wonkey, they managed to build the separations in the barn, and notice that they couldn't get out (you can get a bit overwhelmed when you get going) the plumbing leaked here and there, but it worked out great in the end.

But yes, the French do like to take their time, and whatever you do, don't say that you're not in a hurry. Be it for fitting a kitchen, changing a lightbulb, or working on your car.

crossy67

1,570 posts

186 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Where did your parents buy? Just curious as the agent story sound very familiar.