If it ain't broke, dont cut it off

[The Ben]

I personally am completely fully skinned up, but the yanks want to cut more foreskin's off to cut STD's apparently. I dont know about you, but if there is not a current medical condition as to why it needs to go, then leave it alone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7960798.stm

Yanks the barbarians said:

Circumcision should be routinely considered as a way to reduce the risk of sexually transmitted infections, argue US experts.

They spoke out after research found circumcision significantly cut the risk of infection with herpes and the cancer-causing human papillomavirus.

Circumcision is known to sharply reduce the risk of HIV infection.

But the study, featured in the New England Journal of Medicine, failed to convince UK experts.


The research, carried out by scientists in Uganda, involved nearly 3,500 men and monitored their sexual activity over a period of up to two years.

The researchers, from Johns Hopkins University, found circumcision reduced the risk of herpes by 25%, and human papillomavirus (HPV) by a third.

HPV causes cervical cancer in women, and genital warts in both sexes.

Circumcision rates have been declining in the US and are lowest among black and Hispanic patients - the groups with the highest rates of HIV, herpes and cervical cancer.

Writing in the journal, Dr Matthew Golden and Dr Judith Wasserheit, from the University of Washington, said: "These new data should prompt a major reassessment of the role of male circumcision not only in HIV prevention but also in the prevention of other sexually transmitted infections."

Dr Wasserheit went on to say: "All providers who care for pregnant women and infants have a responsibility to assure that mothers and fathers know that circumcision could help protect their sons from the three most common and most serious viral sexually transmitted infections, all of which cannot currently be cured."

UK scepticism

The reason why a foreskin might increase the risk of infection with various viruses is unclear.

However, research has suggested that a man with a damp penis has a greater risk of being infected by HIV.

Various reasons for this have been put forward, including wetness allowing viruses to stick more easily to the penis, or creating tiny ulcers on the surface of the penis through which a virus might enter.

Dr Colm O'Mahony, a sexual health expert from the Countess of Chester Foundation Trust Hospital in Chester, said the US had an "obsession" with circumcision being the answer to controlling sexually transmitted infections.

He said: "Sure, a dry skinned penis is a bit less likely to contract HIV, herpes and possibly genital warts but it will get infected eventually."

Dr O'Mahony also said pushing circumcision as a solution sent the wrong message.

"It suggests that it is women who infect innocent men - let's protect the innocent men.

"And it allows men who don't want to change their irresponsible behaviour to continue to sleep around and not even use a condom."

Keith Alcorn, from the HIV information service NAM, also warned against a knee jerk reaction.

He said: "We have to be careful not to take evidence from one part of the world and apply it uncritically to others.

"Male circumcision will have little impact on HIV risk for boys born in the UK, where the risk of acquiring HIV heterosexually is very low.

"Girls can be vaccinated against HPV and so protected from cervical cancer, and condoms protect against herpes."

[ShadownINja]

I understand cutting the penis off can stop most STIs being passed on through sexual intercourse, too.

As can decapitation.

[NiceCupOfTea]

Yes, or you could just wash

[speedchick]

They do seem to have a thing for circumsised guys over there, I know a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers, and some actually questioned why we seem to have such a lot of uncut guys (and they don't seem to like them uncut!)

[thinfourth2]

speedchick said:

They do seem to have a thing for circumsised guys over there, I know a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers, and some actually questioned why we seem to have such a lot of uncut guys (and they don't seem to like them uncut!)

More to the point why are your customers sending pictures of their bits shredded or unshredded

[Deva Link]

speedchick said:

a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers,

Just run that by me again....

[GTIR]

Deva Link said:

speedchick said:

a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers,

Just run that by me again....

Yer, I thought speedchick made Jewlerry?

[Flanders.]

I ent been cut and i've stuck my knob in some manky places in my youth and its still fine .

[him_over_there]

speedchick said:

They do seem to have a thing for circumsised guys over there, I know a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers, and some actually questioned why we seem to have such a lot of uncut guys (and they don't seem to like them uncut!)

This has legs!

* gets popcorn *

[TheEnd]

[King Herald]

NiceCupOfTea said:

Yes, or you could just wash

Or wear a condom.
Or not stick your dick anywhere you are too sure about.

[speedchick]

GTIR said:

Deva Link said:

speedchick said:

a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers,

Just run that by me again....

Yer, I thought speedchick made Jewlerry?

Jewellery is my respectable job, in my other job, we have to deal with strange sights coming in from various customers, sent via mobile phone.

[grumbledoak]

A ghastly, unjustified Stone Age practice. Proponents are endlessly trying to find justifications, all the time ignoring the risks.

Both male and female forms should be classed as mutilation, if not assault.

[Neil_H]

speedchick said:

They do seem to have a thing for circumsised guys over there, I know a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers, and some actually questioned why we seem to have such a lot of uncut guys (and they don't seem to like them uncut!)

From what I've heard a lot of the women over there have never even seen uncut cocks before. Totally bizarre. It's how it's supposed to be you dumb fking septics!

[jp19]

Sales of savlon will be through the roof!

[NiceCupOfTea]

grumbledoak said:

A ghastly, unjustified Stone Age practice. Proponents are endlessly trying to find justifications, all the time ignoring the risks.

Both male and female forms should be classed as mutilation, if not assault.

Barbaric. But it's OK because it's a religious tradition .

[him_over_there]

speedchick said:

GTIR said:

Deva Link said:

speedchick said:

a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers,

Just run that by me again....

Yer, I thought speedchick made Jewlerry?

Jewellery is my respectable job, in my other job, we have to deal with strange sights coming in from various customers, sent via mobile phone.

I feel this has posed more questions than it has answered.

[zax]

I remember reading this one years ago... it's hard to forget! Luckily, Google found it again for me:

http://web.mit.edu/jcb/humor/self-circumcision

Brings a tear to the eye

[speedchick]

him_over_there said:

speedchick said:

GTIR said:

Deva Link said:

speedchick said:

a lot of my US colleagues are aghast at the pics they receive from the UK customers,

Just run that by me again....

Yer, I thought speedchick made Jewlerry?

Jewellery is my respectable job, in my other job, we have to deal with strange sights coming in from various customers, sent via mobile phone.

I feel this has posed more questions than it has answered.

What I do when not making jewellery (and sometimes I can make the jewellery at the same time!) has been mentioned on quite a few other threads, search for either posts made by me, or using the term 'text'

[Marf]

Its amazing that a nation as advanced as the United States are still practicing routine infant circumcision against the advice of the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association.

Call me cynical but I'd say the reason its still pushed by many doctors is probably to do with the fact that the Americans have an insurance based health care structure, and circumcision is an industry out there worth a quarter of a billion dollars just for the initial operation itself, and thats putting aside the money hospitals make reselling the tissue for stem cell research and beauty products(yes, beauty products, google foreskin face cream) amongst other things.

Its just sick in this day and age.