Where could all this financial disaster lead...
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I've been reading a few books on the French revolution of late. Its interesting to see some parallels between the events leading up to it and now.
The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility.
In certain countries this situation is currently the case, particularly the former Soviet republics, where a middle class has emerged but is still barred by a tendency for wealth to be held in the hands of former party apparatchiks.
So could we see violent revolution in those countries (or even here if things got freakishly different) and then could it lead to the same situation as in France in 1793, mass state terror and the declaration of war on many neighbouring territories?
The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility.
In certain countries this situation is currently the case, particularly the former Soviet republics, where a middle class has emerged but is still barred by a tendency for wealth to be held in the hands of former party apparatchiks.
So could we see violent revolution in those countries (or even here if things got freakishly different) and then could it lead to the same situation as in France in 1793, mass state terror and the declaration of war on many neighbouring territories?
Eric Mc said:
Tony*T3 said:
we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
I think there might even be a few candidates here on PH 
.911motorsport said:
Tony*T3 said:
we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
and that's just in westminsterMikeyboy said:
I've been reading a few books on the French revolution of late. Its interesting to see some parallels between the events leading up to it and now.
The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility
Did your history books not point out things started to go wrong when a Scot was put in charge of the economy?The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility
Fittster said:
Mikeyboy said:
I've been reading a few books on the French revolution of late. Its interesting to see some parallels between the events leading up to it and now.
The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility
Did your history books not point out things started to go wrong when a Scot was put in charge of the economy?The revolution came after a long period of rising food prices, increasing unemployment, a greater tendency to resort to legal matters by the wealthy against the poorer members of society. The revolution was also not lead as popularly believed by the working classes but by the emerging middle classes who had been disenfranchised by the protectionist policies of the wealthy/nobility
Oddly with our anti-terrorism laws and other new laws to protect our "freedom" we are the best placed nation to end up with a Hitler like figure and we'll have voted that person in too.
Eric Mc said:
Tony*T3 said:
Well, the great depression led to protectionism, then eventully to National Socialism and then global war.
we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
I think there might even be a few candidates here on PH we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
.OJ said:
Eric Mc said:
Tony*T3 said:
Well, the great depression led to protectionism, then eventully to National Socialism and then global war.
we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
I think there might even be a few candidates here on PH we just need a Hitler like figure to emerge somewhere in Europe.
.Mr E said:
Fittster said:
Did your history books not point out things started to go wrong when a Scot was put in charge of the economy?
And started printing money to prop up a pyramid scheme....if madoff gets put inside for his ponzi scheme does that mean el gordo can too?
sleep envy said:
Mr E said:
Fittster said:
Did your history books not point out things started to go wrong when a Scot was put in charge of the economy?
And started printing money to prop up a pyramid scheme....if madoff gets put inside for his ponzi scheme does that mean el gordo can too?
when I was reading the book on the French Revolution GB actually reminded me of G-J Danton. He was corrupt,mendacious, happy to let unethical things happen as long as he wasn't implicated directly. scarred in a boyhood accident, ugly and only in the revolution for himself and what he could get out of it. He was also very good at telling people that they would get an improved everything if they only trusted him, none of which he delivered.
He ended up considerably shorter at the end of his career.
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