I honestly don't think everyone should be allowed to vote...
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Well, there's a fair chance that a number of people will passionately and strongly disagree with me on this one, and I'll get a flaming or two, but I really don't think that everyone should be allowed to vote in this 'democracy' of ours.
For example, if you don't contribute - why should you have a say in how the country is run or who by? I find it quite offensive that lazy, useless, non-workers (eg - see the 'too fat to work' thread) have exactly the same say in the running (or 'ruining' perhaps?) of this country as a hard-working citizen who has made a worthwhile contribution to the country/society/community/business/defence. I've been dwelling on it a fair bit recently, and it just doesn't seem right at all.
Those in prison fit in here as well - currently they can't vote (I think), and this makes good sense to me - but moves are afoot to let them vote, because it contravenes their 'human rights' (
oh, ffs).
Anyway. Standing by......
For example, if you don't contribute - why should you have a say in how the country is run or who by? I find it quite offensive that lazy, useless, non-workers (eg - see the 'too fat to work' thread) have exactly the same say in the running (or 'ruining' perhaps?) of this country as a hard-working citizen who has made a worthwhile contribution to the country/society/community/business/defence. I've been dwelling on it a fair bit recently, and it just doesn't seem right at all.
Those in prison fit in here as well - currently they can't vote (I think), and this makes good sense to me - but moves are afoot to let them vote, because it contravenes their 'human rights' (
oh, ffs).Anyway. Standing by......
If you contribute you earn the right to vote, If your to lazy or fat to work then a big fat 
everyone should be allowed to vote, its just that hard working people should earn extra votes. Prove your worth to society in some way and your vote will double or treble, say x4 for a degree (proper ones from a proper uni), x2 for a diploma type thing from a college, then youd get extra votes for each year youre in gainful employment too.
Jasandjules said:
deevlash said:
women can vote?!?!?!?! 
Why the hell wasn't I notified......Isn't it odd that such banter would raise no more than a rolleyes from any faction, yet replace 'women' with 'people of colour' or 'homosexuals' or any other grouping you'd care to mention and you'd be ostracised.
We live under such a strange regime.
[/wondering out loud]
andy400 said:
Well, there's a fair chance that a number of people will passionately and strongly disagree with me on this one, and I'll get a flaming or two, but I really don't think that everyone should be allowed to vote in this 'democracy' of ours.
For example, if you don't contribute - why should you have a say in how the country is run or who by? I find it quite offensive that lazy, useless, non-workers (eg - see the 'too fat to work' thread) have exactly the same say in the running (or 'ruining' perhaps?) of this country as a hard-working citizen who has made a worthwhile contribution to the country/society/community/business/defence. I've been dwelling on it a fair bit recently, and it just doesn't seem right at all.
Those in prison fit in here as well - currently they can't vote (I think), and this makes good sense to me - but moves are afoot to let them vote, because it contravenes their 'human rights' ( oh, ffs).
Anyway. Standing by......
Do you really think most of these people do actually bother to vote? Not when election turnouts hovering arounf 30% they dont....For example, if you don't contribute - why should you have a say in how the country is run or who by? I find it quite offensive that lazy, useless, non-workers (eg - see the 'too fat to work' thread) have exactly the same say in the running (or 'ruining' perhaps?) of this country as a hard-working citizen who has made a worthwhile contribution to the country/society/community/business/defence. I've been dwelling on it a fair bit recently, and it just doesn't seem right at all.
Those in prison fit in here as well - currently they can't vote (I think), and this makes good sense to me - but moves are afoot to let them vote, because it contravenes their 'human rights' (
oh, ffs).Anyway. Standing by......
so no real issue then
I have to say in theory I disagree, everyone should have a voice no matter how much of a parasite they are on the rest of the country. However in practice I do agree, the system at the moment is so unrewarding to success and the most opportunities are given to those who don't want to change their situation.
Something does need to change but restricting votes to certain people could be the thin end of the wedge.
Something does need to change but restricting votes to certain people could be the thin end of the wedge.
speedchick said:
If you are going to say that the unemployed shouldn't vote, what happens to the people that are out of work through no fault of their own, like those made redundant? Will they be allowed to vote seeing as they have previously contributed?
In my world order they still get to vote but their voting level stays staionary whilst on benefits, 1 years work 1.1 vote, 2 years 1.2 votes and so on and so forth,V8mate said:
Jasandjules said:
deevlash said:
women can vote?!?!?!?!
Why the hell wasn't I notified......Isn't it odd that such banter would raise no more than a rolleyes from any faction, yet replace 'women' with 'people of colour' or 'homosexuals' or any other grouping you'd care to mention and you'd be ostracised.
We live under such a strange regime.
[/wondering out loud]
You're quite right though. It was a poor joke and I'm sorry.
To all the cute PH chicky babes. . .I'm really sorry.
el stovey said:
V8mate said:
Jasandjules said:
deevlash said:
women can vote?!?!?!?!
Why the hell wasn't I notified......Isn't it odd that such banter would raise no more than a rolleyes from any faction, yet replace 'women' with 'people of colour' or 'homosexuals' or any other grouping you'd care to mention and you'd be ostracised.
We live under such a strange regime.
[/wondering out loud]
You're quite right though. It was a poor joke and I'm sorry.
To all the cute PH chicky babes. . .I'm really sorry.
Just saying that 'women' are a group who can't help but be what they are, just like the others I mentioned. Yet we are 'allowed' to mock them (and them us), but not other groups.
Just seems odd.
Personally, I'd be happier if we could mock everyone mercilessly
Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 18th March 17:33
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