Claiming money back from slow broadband.

Claiming money back from slow broadband.

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AJI

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5,180 posts

224 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Just wondering if anybody on here has been successful in claiming money back from slow broadband connections?

I am with Tiscali and currently paying for the "upto 8Mbps" service.
My line speed is capable of 6.5Mbps according to B.T. who Tiscali rent the line off.

Now I expect slower speeds due to heavy local area usage of the internet...but I don't think I'm wrong in complaining about the fact that I only get 0.3Mbps .... or am I wrong?


I have a phone line with the ability to receive 6.5Mbps but only receiving 0.3Mbps.....can Tiscali really have a leg to stand on when they say aomething along the lines of......well we advertise it as "up to 8Mbps" ?


I would not be complaining if it we were getting 4 or 5Mbps but 0.3 is far below what the line is capable of.

Should I put in a claim or am I likely to be told to bugga off because the small print says "upto" ??

stuart-b

3,651 posts

233 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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We used Tiscali a long time ago, and moved away to BEthere.co.uk (ADSL2+) and get 22mbit down and 2.4mbit upload (at the office).

Tiscali perform port throttling and all sorts of naughties to keep bandwidth lower.

The ISP should check the Signal to Noise ratio regularly and up the connection rate, but clearly they aren't doing that.

It's possible your line has a lot of noise, I can't remember the BT command (*70) or something to dial yourself to listen to crackling.

If the line is noisy the connection rate is reduced until the signal to noise ratio is acceptable.

What dB rate does your modem say the line is? The higher it is, the worse the line quality.

I would personally get a MAC code from them and move over to BEthere.co.uk or BT broadband.

HTH.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

211 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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There's a while raft of other stuff that they can pin the problem on, network cards, anti virus, routers etc

Given they're up st creek financially it could be a matter of time before they make the decision for you

King Herald

23,501 posts

223 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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AJI said:
Just wondering if anybody on here has been successful in claiming money back from slow broadband connections?

I am with Tiscali and currently paying for the "upto 8Mbps" service.
My line speed is capable of 6.5Mbps according to B.T. who Tiscali rent the line off.

Now I expect slower speeds due to heavy local area usage of the internet...but I don't think I'm wrong in complaining about the fact that I only get 0.3Mbps .... or am I wrong?


I have a phone line with the ability to receive 6.5Mbps but only receiving 0.3Mbps.....can Tiscali really have a leg to stand on when they say aomething along the lines of......well we advertise it as "up to 8Mbps" ?


I would not be complaining if it we were getting 4 or 5Mbps but 0.3 is far below what the line is capable of.

Should I put in a claim or am I likely to be told to bugga off because the small print says "upto" ??
0.3Mbps is NOT broadband, so do like I did, call the suppler and tell them you wish to cancel because they are in breach of contract.

Tell them you are paying for broadband and you want it, so you need to cancel them and go elsewhere. Call the billing department, not 'faults' or whatever they are called. That gave BT the rev up they needed to send somebody out and sort my stuff, rather than have some numpty in Bombay repeatedly telling me I needed to plug my PC directly into the BT socket behind the front door.

They sent me a new modem, which fixed it, despite the original being just three months old.

curlie467

7,650 posts

208 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?

Muncher

12,220 posts

256 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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I'd hurry up if I were you as Tiscali may be going to the wall if some reports are to be believed.

Mr E

22,128 posts

266 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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curlie467 said:
.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?
I doubt that's residential grade ASDL....

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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You're not confusing bits and bytes are you?

6.5mbps as a line rate is roughly 650Kb/s in real terms.

If you're getting 300Kb/s then this translates to a line rate of 3mbps

curlie467

7,650 posts

208 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Mr E said:
curlie467 said:
.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?
I doubt that's residential grade ASDL....
Im at home if thats what you mean.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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curlie467 said:
Mr E said:
curlie467 said:
.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?
I doubt that's residential grade ASDL....
Im at home if thats what you mean.
Do you download things at 4800Kb/sec?

If not, its wrong.

curlie467

7,650 posts

208 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Plotloss said:
curlie467 said:
Mr E said:
curlie467 said:
.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?
I doubt that's residential grade ASDL....
Im at home if thats what you mean.
Do you download things at 4800Kb/sec?

If not, its wrong.
I will bow out of this as i do not know enough, i just hovered the mouse above the wireless icon thingy and thats what it said the rates were. Probably wrong, sorry.

Muncher

12,220 posts

256 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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curlie467 said:
Plotloss said:
curlie467 said:
Mr E said:
curlie467 said:
.3 is shocking, mine says its at 48mbps at the moment! Can this be right?
I doubt that's residential grade ASDL....
Im at home if thats what you mean.
Do you download things at 4800Kb/sec?

If not, its wrong.
I will bow out of this as i do not know enough, i just hovered the mouse above the wireless icon thingy and thats what it said the rates were. Probably wrong, sorry.
That will probably be the connection speed from your PC to the wireless router. Not the connection speed from the router to your broadband provider.

AJI

Original Poster:

5,180 posts

224 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Plotloss said:
You're not confusing bits and bytes are you?

6.5mbps as a line rate is roughly 650Kb/s in real terms.

If you're getting 300Kb/s then this translates to a line rate of 3mbps
Definitely 0.3Mbps.... I do a speed test each day with Tiscali's own speed test website and it puts my connection in the lower end of ASDL speed.... as already mentioned it is not even broadband speed.


At the moment they are sending me round in circles.... I get this guy from India telling me to do a line check...I then tell them it is only 0.3Mbps....he tells me they will contact B.T. for them to get an 'Engineer' to look at the fault.....1 week later they ring back with a different person from India who tells me to do another line test. I report back telling them it is only 0.3Mbps and they tell me that they will send out another B.T. 'Engineer'....etc. etc, and the circle continues.

I am now totally sick of their incompetence so probably going to put in a claim.

BUT if they have some fancy 'get out' clause which makes use of the words "up to 8Mbps" then not much I can do apart from cancel one contract and start up with some other bunch of numpties.


Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Irrespective of the speed test (which can be influenced by many things) when you download a relatively large file from the internet, what is the transfer rate shown by the browser?

1066

238 posts

205 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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I was in the same boat - Paying for for 8 Meg broadband with Sky, actually getting around 0.5 of a meg or so.

I bought some new house phones last week and all of a sudden my Broadband speed has gone from the above to about 6meg. All after endless hours on the phone to both Sky and BT, both blaming each other.

coogy

959 posts

218 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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I have the same problem and i'm using PlusNet whcih I beleive is a part of Tiscali. Dreadful service and can't wait to get moved!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Things to check:

Does every outlet with a phone plugged into it, including sky boxes have a filter on it?

Have you tried disconnecting the ringer wire on the internal phone wiring downstream of the master socket, if there are any?



Matt172

12,415 posts

251 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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1066 said:
I was in the same boat - Paying for for 8 Meg broadband with Sky, actually getting around 0.5 of a meg or so.

I bought some new house phones last week and all of a sudden my Broadband speed has gone from the above to about 6meg. All after endless hours on the phone to both Sky and BT, both blaming each other.
I've heard stories about Sky reducing the broadband speed without notice, apparently they keep tabs on what you are downloading etc, and if you only use the net for brousing, they reduce the speed as you probably wouldn't notice

Taita

7,724 posts

210 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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As poster 2 said, fk Tiscali off and get over to Be. Top banana.

Mattygooner

5,301 posts

211 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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I am supposed to get 8, i only get 1.2, and the line drops every hour or so, think still paying £24.99 to BT for that st aswell.