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'Treat 'em mean - keep 'em keen'
I've only ever been a b
d to one gf. She just didn't do it for me at all yet the more I was offish and ignoring her after we split, the harder she tried. She still didn't get the message when I shagged her sister after we split up and was even up for a three some with her own sister. Sadly the other sister was not
My limited experience tells me that something is not quite right with them. No idea why it works but it does 
'Love is blind' - that may be the case but even Ray Charles would know there's something wrong.
I've only ever been a b



'Love is blind' - that may be the case but even Ray Charles would know there's something wrong.
ShadownINja said:
Any other stories? Thought there'd be more tales of woe.
I don't go in for discussing my personal relationships on the internet, but I can try to give you my perspective on this.It's not as simplistic as being 'a nice guy' who 'gets used and treated badly by nasty girls'
or
'a total b

It's much more subtle - there are a range of other characteristics and attributes which are very broadly grouped together in the 'nice guy' category which are sometimes really unattractive, especially in men. It's a real generalisation but often they are the ones that are also associated with neediness and leadership.
It certainly isn't about 'nice'. But too nice is often apparent in overly compliant and agreeable traits (compromising their own opinions and needs in order to win approval and acceptance) and this (to me) is unattractive.
Having said that, I know many girls who like that kind of man and are totally happy with it so I think your question is more about finding the right person for you.
Don't shoot me down here because it is a generalisation - I'm just trying to share more about those people who I know who are also in the 'too nice' category (in my rating system) it's different for everyone!
I'll never work out women.
If you act like a
and treat them like s
t they love it, then all they do is complain about the way they are treated but still keep going back for more s
t treatment.
Sadly I just don't have it in me to act like this, I was raised to be polite and respectful so always lose out the the rude obnoxious t
t.
If you act like a



Sadly I just don't have it in me to act like this, I was raised to be polite and respectful so always lose out the the rude obnoxious t

I can cite as examples two blokes I have known since about 6 years old.
Both of them are so "proper" in their dealings with women - it's almost Victorian. On the face of it these manners and sheer niceness you would think have women crawling up the wall, they're genuinely nice blokes too, and are good looking.
However neither of them has had what I would describe as a long-term relationship and I'll hazard that one (now in mid-30s) is still a virgin. I think they need to swear a bit, do something outrageous, nick a policemans helmet in a drunken brawl or something.
On the other hand look at the number of really fit birds who hang around with some of the roughest, thickest blokes imaginable (certain sections of the building trade for example).
Both of them are so "proper" in their dealings with women - it's almost Victorian. On the face of it these manners and sheer niceness you would think have women crawling up the wall, they're genuinely nice blokes too, and are good looking.
However neither of them has had what I would describe as a long-term relationship and I'll hazard that one (now in mid-30s) is still a virgin. I think they need to swear a bit, do something outrageous, nick a policemans helmet in a drunken brawl or something.
On the other hand look at the number of really fit birds who hang around with some of the roughest, thickest blokes imaginable (certain sections of the building trade for example).
parakitaMol. said:
ShadownINja said:
Any other stories? Thought there'd be more tales of woe.
I don't go in for discussing my personal relationships on the internet, but I can try to give you my perspective on this.It's not as simplistic as being 'a nice guy' who 'gets used and treated badly by nasty girls'
or
'a total b

It's much more subtle - there are a range of other characteristics and attributes which are very broadly grouped together in the 'nice guy' category which are sometimes really unattractive, especially in men. It's a real generalisation but often they are the ones that are also associated with neediness and leadership.
It certainly isn't about 'nice'. But too nice is often apparent in overly compliant and agreeable traits (compromising their own opinions and needs in order to win approval and acceptance) and this (to me) is unattractive.
Having said that, I know many girls who like that kind of man and are totally happy with it so I think your question is more about finding the right person for you.
Don't shoot me down here because it is a generalisation - I'm just trying to share more about those people who I know who are also in the 'too nice' category (in my rating system) it's different for everyone!

My ex-wife`s sister had, and still has a boyfriend who is what I would call a b
d - they`ve been together what must be 6 or 7 years now. He showed a lack of respect and he expected her at his side whenever he clicked his fingers. He also did what he wanted regardless of other plans that had been made and did everything else how he wanted aswell with no consideration of others. In my ex-mother-in-laws eyes he could do no wrong and his behaviour was because "he`s one of the lad`s" - it seemed the sun shone out of his arse. On the other hand she did`nt like me - I always respected my then wife and contributed plenty to the marriage. Even my ex-wife had a hatred of her sisters boyfriend because she did`nt like to see her sister being treated in the way she was/is.
So, in a word - women do like b
ds yes.

So, in a word - women do like b

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