Can you run backwards fast enough to...
Can you run backwards fast enough to...
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dibbers006

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14,505 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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What would happen if you ran around the Equator in the opposite direction to the Earth faster than the Globe is rotating?

Presumably you wouldn't travel back in time! silly

How about if you did it at the Pole? (not run backwards but ran in reverse...)










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Big Rod

6,252 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Not quite the same thing, but a well travelled friend of mine told me he'd had a conversation with and 'older' woman on a transatlantic flight a few years ago.

Apparently when her Husband died, she decided to go travelling, which is nice! But it dawned on her that because she'd gone around the world in one direction, she'd lost a day so given that she reckoned she couldn't afford to lose a day at her time of life, she went the other way round to get it back!!

I know it doesn't work quite like that, I just though it was sweet.

deviant

4,316 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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What would happen if you stood exactly on the north pole on a turntable thats spinning the opposite way to the earth?

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Concorde used to arrive before you had left if you see what i mean? Two breakfasts smile If you take local time you have travelled in time. (of course you haven't really).

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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deviant said:
What would happen if you stood exactly on the north pole on a turntable thats spinning the opposite way to the earth?
You'd get dizzy.

isee

3,713 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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You would not be affected time travel wise since you are only increasing your speed relative to the globe and to a stationary observer you would still be doing 5-10 mph.

Astronauts who spend weeks orbiting earth do technically return to earth slightly younger compared with people who have remained on earth however (I read this somwhere, might not be true).

The problem with achieing the speed of light is that if you throw 2 objects towards each other, each travelling at say 2/3 speed of light, you do not get 1.2 times the speed of light, you still only get 0.6

SamHH

5,062 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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If you ignore the possibility that your body would break apart or overheat from running so fast, then the answer is that nothing would happen. What were you expecting?

SpunkyMonkey

425 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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If you had a plane that could lap the earth around the equator in 1 minute, and you started East at 12 noon on 1st January, you would reach the international date line at about 00:00:30 on 2nd Jan, then it will become 00:00:30.000000000001 on 1st Jan as soon as you cross. You wil end up back where you started at 12:01 on 1st Jan. I think!

marctwo

3,666 posts

276 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Surely all you are doing in changing time zones? This is no more going back in time as it would be if you just changed the time on your watch.

MartG

21,841 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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If you ran at a speed at the equator which matched the Earths rotation, so that you were effectively stationary, you'd be very slightly heavier due to the lack of centrifugal force you'd normally feel due to the earth rotating. You'd get the same effect by going to the pole too.

Things on the equator also weigh less than at the pole due to the earth's shape being bulged around the equator - you're slightly further away from the earth's centre of gravity, so gravitational attraction is slightly reduced

marshalla

15,902 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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deviant said:
What would happen if you stood exactly on the north pole on a turntable thats spinning the opposite way to the earth?
You still wouldn't take off.

FunkyNige

9,504 posts

291 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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isee said:
Astronauts who spend weeks orbiting earth do technically return to earth slightly younger compared with people who have remained on earth however (I read this somwhere, might not be true).
It is true - time slows down when you travel quickly so you don't age as much (it's been tested with atomic clocks on Concorde and satelites have to take this into account when buzzing round the Earth) - read up on general relativity if you have a spare year...

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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FunkyNige said:
isee said:
Astronauts who spend weeks orbiting earth do technically return to earth slightly younger compared with people who have remained on earth however (I read this somwhere, might not be true).
It is true - time slows down when you travel quickly so you don't age as much (it's been tested with atomic clocks on Concorde and satelites have to take this into account when buzzing round the Earth) - read up on general relativity if you have a spare year...
So driving fast everywhere means i'll love longer?

marshalla

15,902 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Dave_ST220 said:
FunkyNige said:
isee said:
Astronauts who spend weeks orbiting earth do technically return to earth slightly younger compared with people who have remained on earth however (I read this somwhere, might not be true).
It is true - time slows down when you travel quickly so you don't age as much (it's been tested with atomic clocks on Concorde and satelites have to take this into account when buzzing round the Earth) - read up on general relativity if you have a spare year...
So driving fast everywhere means i'll love longer?
I don't think he was commenting on your stamina - but if you do that faster too...scratchchin

B17NNS

18,506 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Duh. Am I the only one who has seen Superman?

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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marshalla said:
Dave_ST220 said:
FunkyNige said:
isee said:
Astronauts who spend weeks orbiting earth do technically return to earth slightly younger compared with people who have remained on earth however (I read this somwhere, might not be true).
It is true - time slows down when you travel quickly so you don't age as much (it's been tested with atomic clocks on Concorde and satelites have to take this into account when buzzing round the Earth) - read up on general relativity if you have a spare year...
So driving fast everywhere means i'll love longer?
I don't think he was commenting on your stamina - but if you do that faster too...scratchchin
opps, bad typo!!!!!!!

Triumph Coupe

386 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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MartG said:
If you ran at a speed at the equator which matched the Earths rotation, so that you were effectively stationary, you'd be very slightly heavier due to the lack of centrifugal force you'd normally feel due to the earth rotating. You'd get the same effect by going to the pole too.

Things on the equator also weigh less than at the pole due to the earth's shape being bulged around the equator - you're slightly further away from the earth's centre of gravity, so gravitational attraction is slightly reduced
soapbox Centrifugal force is fictitious!


singlecoil

34,690 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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There was a young lady called Bright
Who could travel faster than Light
She went out one day
In a relative way
And came back the previous night

Nic Jones

7,165 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Triumph Coupe said:
MartG said:
If you ran at a speed at the equator which matched the Earths rotation, so that you were effectively stationary, you'd be very slightly heavier due to the lack of centrifugal force you'd normally feel due to the earth rotating. You'd get the same effect by going to the pole too.

Things on the equator also weigh less than at the pole due to the earth's shape being bulged around the equator - you're slightly further away from the earth's centre of gravity, so gravitational attraction is slightly reduced
soapbox Centrifugal force is fictitious!
I stop paying attention as soon as anyone mentions the word 'centrifugal' as it usually means they don't know what they're on about! hehe

dibbers006

Original Poster:

14,505 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Nic Jones said:
Triumph Coupe said:
MartG said:
If you ran at a speed at the equator which matched the Earths rotation, so that you were effectively stationary, you'd be very slightly heavier due to the lack of centrifugal force you'd normally feel due to the earth rotating. You'd get the same effect by going to the pole too.

Things on the equator also weigh less than at the pole due to the earth's shape being bulged around the equator - you're slightly further away from the earth's centre of gravity, so gravitational attraction is slightly reduced
soapbox Centrifugal force is fictitious!
I stop paying attention as soon as anyone mentions the word 'centrifugal' as it usually means they don't know what they're on about! hehe
Is this a Pistonheads 'in joke' or is there a popular misconception that I am succumbing to?