Working in mental health?
Working in mental health?
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randomman

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2,215 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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A friend of mine is considering a career change to mental health. He currently has what I reckon one of the last 2 jobs in the country with anything to do with mortgages - and he wants to move to something safer.

Obviously there will be working with some pretty grim characters, but as a HCA (healthcare assistant) what will his role be?

Basically he doesn't to spend the rest of his life cleaning poo and vomit off the walls. (which I sniggered at when he said!)

lottie

701 posts

241 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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My Mum works with people with mental health issues and it's an incredible job. It's amazing the people that she supports and how their lives have gone from quite "normal" to having mental health issues that change their lives totally. I heard a radio programme the other day that was saying that by the end of this year more than 1 in 10 people will have mental health issues due to the current economic climate. If he has an outgoing and forward thinking personality then he should do well. An ability to communicate with lots of different people has to be a "must have" for this type of job. Good luck to him if he goes for it. I couldn't work in this field and have tremendous respect for those who do.

RZSupra

79 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I've worked in mental health for 18 years now. Health Care Assistant suggests his role is likely to be ward based. He might have to get his hands dirty especially if working with the elderly but is likely to spend most of his time supporting the nursing staff, taking patient's out on leave, talking with the patients etc. Job is emotionally demanding and poorly paid (maybe 14K max).

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I had a mate who once worked in a proper nut house.

Many of the patients had no idea of right or wrong or social etiquette.

One bloke used to crap himself, then eat it if he was hungry.

Another woman used to continuously, and I mean continuously, masturbate. Her nickname was Birdseye.

He said that day trips to the park or playgrounds were often quite embarrassing.

Jsys

108 posts

202 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Both my parents work for the NHS full time and both have since their 20's.

I'd mention to him is that anyone working in the health industry at a caring level doesn't just work 9-5, you may not have a contractual obligation to continue working after hours but anyone with any sense of caring will be morally obliged to doing more than your fair share. It'll be stressful, pretty thankless and the feeling of making a difference doesn't overwhelm either. Also you'll have to deal with incompetent management on a level you'd never believe was possible.

All in all it's not for everyone but it can be a rewarding profession

batfink79

2,833 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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How do,

I work in mental health, as a specialist OT within a inner city acute response team. Its a cracking job, always interesting, sometimes you need to have your wits about you, particularly when visiting rough as fook areas!
I supervise HCA's and did some time as one prior to qualifying at uni...
The job in general is very tough, and can be very stressful, your mate would need to be a seriously altruistic person, as unqualified roles don't pay well, and you're the bottom of the chain of command.( no less crucial to the team for that though).....

deckster

9,631 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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He'd have to be barmy to consider it.

getmecoat

richyb

4,615 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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deckster said:
He'd have to be barmy to consider it.

getmecoat
I heard the workload can be crazy.

crazypav

295 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I admire anyone that can deal with people with serious mental health issues. I also feel that NHS trusts fail to support the mental health teams adequately enough.
Best of luck to them I say.

batfink79

2,833 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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At present I get a conflicting set of directives almost on a weekly basis. In part due to a fatality in the city a little while ago, and perpetrated by a client under the care of one of our sister teams. The spotlight is on the service in a big way, and at the same time, every possible penny is being squeezed from our budgets.


Lunacy I tell ya!
wink

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

249 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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batfink79 said:
How do,

I work in mental health, as a specialist OT within a inner city acute response team. Its a cracking job, always interesting, sometimes you need to have your wits about you, particularly when visiting rough as fook areas!
I supervise HCA's and did some time as one prior to qualifying at uni...
The job in general is very tough, and can be very stressful, your mate would need to be a seriously altruistic person, as unqualified roles don't pay well, and you're the bottom of the chain of command.( no less crucial to the team for that though).....
Sorry to HiJack, but Batfink, would you mind if I emailed you about a situation I'm having with a friend of mine?

I could really use some advice.

batfink79

2,833 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Hi Mrs T,

No I wouldn't mind in the slightest , glad to be of any help if possible. I'll pm you my e mail address.

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

249 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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batfink79 said:
Hi Mrs T,

No I wouldn't mind in the slightest , glad to be of any help if possible. I'll pm you my e mail address.
Thank you very much. It's very much appreciated.

MiniLiz

148 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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http://www.socialcarecareers.co.uk
Advertised on the tv, might have something of use smile

batfink79

2,833 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Not sure I fancy that, my colleagues from social services always appear to be stressed to beyond breaking point. Although with the advent of multi disciplinary approved practitioners, I would imagine this could change....


King Herald

23,501 posts

232 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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randomman said:
A friend of mine is considering a career change to mental health. He currently has what I reckon one of the last 2 jobs in the country with anything to do with mortgages - and he wants to move to something safer.

Obviously there will be working with some pretty grim characters, but as a HCA (healthcare assistant) what will his role be?

Basically he doesn't to spend the rest of his life cleaning poo and vomit off the walls. (which I sniggered at when he said!)
My wife is a healthcare assistant. She was basically a bum wiper and washer and general medical dogsbody, when she worked at an agency, going to numerous different homes and all, but she now works looking after one disabled girl.

The trouble is most places only pay minimum salary for this sort of job. Unless you have qualifications which take you above the healthcare assistant status into something more specialised.

adycav

7,615 posts

233 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I worked in an NHS regional (medium) secure unit for a few years whilst studying, and later in a private hospital for offenders with LDs/mental illness/personality disorders (as an assistant psychologist).

It can be interesting, challenging and difficult work, that's for sure. The pay is pretty dismal though - I currently earn nearly four times what I did then (I now work in youth justice).

I think that working in this field is either something that you will take to or you won't.

It might be worth your friend doing some kind of voluntary work before committing themselves - to see if they have the necessary aptitude, empathy, tenacity, resilience and sense of humour.

batfink79

2,833 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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^
What he said, healthcare assts have historically had a bum deal of it, in particular in working as agency staff, where they are resented by full time staff. This mainly within private sector nursing homes etc.

As King Heralds wife has possibly experienced, being the carer for just the one person can substantially increase the job satisfaction and the quality of engagement for both the client and the carer...



Edited by batfink79 on Tuesday 10th March 21:57

Si 330

1,306 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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My wife is a registered nurse she works in a secure unit.
The HCA on her unit help the clients with general living, assisting them getting dressed, washing, wiping there arses,doing the laundry, escorting them on trips out and restraining them.
Unsociable hours and crap money.

randomman

Original Poster:

2,215 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Si 330 said:
My wife is a registered nurse she works in a secure unit.
The HCA on her unit help the clients with general living, assisting them getting dressed, washing, wiping there arses,doing the laundry, escorting them on trips out and restraining them.
Unsociable hours and crap money.
Lovely!

Just shown him this thread. Funnily enough it hasn't put him off (the nutter!)