Stabbed 20 times...by accident?

Stabbed 20 times...by accident?

Author
Discussion

deckster

Original Poster:

9,631 posts

262 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
Am I missing something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/791901...

OK so I have little sympathy for the chap with 2,000 kiddie porn pictures (although I detest vigilanteism, but that's beside the point) - but how can this guy claim that he 'forgot' he was holding the knife and yet manage to stab him 20 times? And more importantly, how could the jury possibly believe him? Is it just a case of 'sod it, it was only a paedo'?

OllieWinchester

5,681 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
deckster said:
Am I missing something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/791901...

OK so I have little sympathy for the chap with 2,000 kiddie porn pictures (although I detest vigilanteism, but that's beside the point) - but how can this guy claim that he 'forgot' he was holding the knife and yet manage to stab him 20 times? And more importantly, how could the jury possibly believe him? Is it just a case of 'sod it, it was only a paedo'?
Probably. Good work that man....

FlossyThePig

4,099 posts

250 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
deckster said:
Am I missing something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/791901...

OK so I have little sympathy for the chap with 2,000 kiddie porn pictures (although I detest vigilanteism, but that's beside the point) - but how can this guy claim that he 'forgot' he was holding the knife and yet manage to stab him 20 times? And more importantly, how could the jury possibly believe him? Is it just a case of 'sod it, it was only a paedo'?
Now the chap is dead we will never know if he had 2000 kiddie porn pictures.

Can you remember when there was a very large scale international operation because there were details of a lot of people paying for kiddie porn using there credit cards? At least one of the totally innocent people accused, committed suicide. It turned out to be a major money laundering scam using stolen credit card details.

Berserker LM

1,217 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
Only 20 times? Better luck next time!

wolves_wanderer

12,635 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
OllieWinchester said:
deckster said:
Am I missing something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/791901...

OK so I have little sympathy for the chap with 2,000 kiddie porn pictures (although I detest vigilanteism, but that's beside the point) - but how can this guy claim that he 'forgot' he was holding the knife and yet manage to stab him 20 times? And more importantly, how could the jury possibly believe him? Is it just a case of 'sod it, it was only a paedo'?
Probably. Good work that man....
Yep, well done. Lets all go round stabbing people we think are paedos. Can't see a flaw in that plan anywhere.

Funk

26,573 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
The guy was waiting to be tried on suspicion of having child porn - have I missed something? The random neighbour-turned-murderer does NOT deserve to be told 'good work'.

Guilt is for the courts to decide.

Edited by Funk on Monday 2nd March 20:24

fathomfive

10,163 posts

197 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
Ok, so the dead guy may have been a fiddy-kiddler, but how the fk can anyone buy the story he forgot he had hold of the knife?



Edited by fathomfive on Monday 2nd March 19:43

Demolisher 2

445 posts

193 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
wolves_wanderer said:
OllieWinchester said:
deckster said:
Am I missing something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/791901...

OK so I have little sympathy for the chap with 2,000 kiddie porn pictures (although I detest vigilanteism, but that's beside the point) - but how can this guy claim that he 'forgot' he was holding the knife and yet manage to stab him 20 times? And more importantly, how could the jury possibly believe him? Is it just a case of 'sod it, it was only a paedo'?
Probably. Good work that man....
Yep, well done. Lets all go round stabbing people we think are paedos. Can't see a flaw in that plan anywhere.
AAARGHHH!
Padeo Sympathiser!!!!
Quick, someone stab him to death!!!
wink

OllieWinchester

5,681 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
The guy who stabbed him lived in the same neighborhood as this nonce, and as a result may well have known a lot more about this persons innocence or guilt than the papers can say. There was a paedo who lived a couple of doors down from a mate of mine, lots of people knew some of his multiple victims. When he got done over the papers would always say 'suspected paedophile' and the sympathisers would come out and say how atrocious it was then too.

ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49

pokethepope

2,665 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
He was probably only a pediatrician.........

wolves_wanderer

12,635 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49
Yes. Lets all believe a murderer instead. Good, upstanding pillars of the community murderers. They'd never lie to save their own skin.

I think that bloke who looked at me funny from over the road is almost certainly a paedo. I'd best go and accidently stab him 20 times just to be on the safe side.

Jasandjules

70,502 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
I suspect the Jury did indeed go with the fekc it, he's a kiddy fiddler and he got stabbed... Never mind. Also, I am thinking that he went with the knife to stab the car tyres rather than with the intent to actually stab the alleged fiddler. Ergo, the malice aforethought when he took the knife was not to use it on a person. But then, the flip side is that it's a bit difficult to not notice you have a knife 20 times, and one would expect it needs to be withdrawn from the body, which would take a bit of force? So I would have expected that at some stage in proceedings the other fellow wasn't scrapping much but still being stabbed, and at that point it would have been fairly obvious that he had a knife and to use it with intent to cause GBH.... i.e. Murder. But perhaps the CPS decided that manslaughter was a definite go-er and so went with the what they knew would secure a conviction.

elster

17,517 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49
I know you would never imagine people giving beatings to people with the same name as a Paedo.....oh wait people have done several times before.

OllieWinchester

5,681 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
biggrin

sstein

6,249 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...
Staggering...

So we are allowed to go around stabbing people now based on rumour and hearsay?

What about all the other victims of stabbings ? Were they paedophiles as well ?

I really can't imagine anyone ever getting stabbed for no reason at all. Nope... never...

This guy should be up for murder and be getting put away for a LONG time. The courts decide guilt, not maniacs with knifes.

-

Stuart

Matt Harper

6,769 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
wolves_wanderer said:
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49
Yes. Lets all believe a murderer instead. Good, upstanding pillars of the community murderers. They'd never lie to save their own skin.

I think that bloke who looked at me funny from over the road is almost certainly a paedo. I'd best go and accidently stab him 20 times just to be on the safe side.
....Only after vandalising his car and repeatedly slashing his tyres - then you accidentally stab him 20 times. The victim was not convicted - therefore innocent until proven otherwise.
The knuckle-dragger who took it upon himself to dish-out his own interpretation of justice is only slightly more moronic than Ollie Winchester.

okgo

39,333 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
2o00 kiddie porn pics on his computer. Yes its bad, but there are far worse crimes out there. Defiantly not worthy of this crime!

OllieWinchester

5,681 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
Matt Harper said:
wolves_wanderer said:
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49
Yes. Lets all believe a murderer instead. Good, upstanding pillars of the community murderers. They'd never lie to save their own skin.

I think that bloke who looked at me funny from over the road is almost certainly a paedo. I'd best go and accidently stab him 20 times just to be on the safe side.
....Only after vandalising his car and repeatedly slashing his tyres - then you accidentally stab him 20 times. The victim was not convicted - therefore innocent until proven otherwise.
The knuckle-dragger who took it upon himself to dish-out his own interpretation of justice is only slightly more moronic than Ollie Winchester.
So, lets get this straight. The courts hear how he basically waged a campaign against this bloke, then stabs him to death, but they decide he is not guilty of murder? Anyone would think they knew more about the case than Pistonheads!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

262 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
Very easy mistake to make...

I'm always stabbing people accidentally, twenty times.

What am I like...?..rolleyes

sstein

6,249 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
quotequote all
OllieWinchester said:
Matt Harper said:
wolves_wanderer said:
OllieWinchester said:
ETA - I find it unlikely he would wage a vendetta and ultimately stab the guy to death on hearsay, so I repeat, good work that man...

Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 2nd March 19:49
Yes. Lets all believe a murderer instead. Good, upstanding pillars of the community murderers. They'd never lie to save their own skin.

I think that bloke who looked at me funny from over the road is almost certainly a paedo. I'd best go and accidently stab him 20 times just to be on the safe side.
....Only after vandalising his car and repeatedly slashing his tyres - then you accidentally stab him 20 times. The victim was not convicted - therefore innocent until proven otherwise.
The knuckle-dragger who took it upon himself to dish-out his own interpretation of justice is only slightly more moronic than Ollie Winchester.
So, lets get this straight. The courts hear how he basically waged a campaign against this bloke, then stabs him to death, but they decide he is not guilty of murder? Anyone would think they knew more about the case than Pistonheads!
It doesn't matter how guilty or not his victim was of any other crime. Our laws in this country are there to protect everyone, you can't pick and choose who you apply them to. We also can't apply the law based on the perceived character of the victim.

He should be done for murder and sent away for a long time. His victim may have been a scumbag, but until he had had his day in court, he was innocent (not that it matters).

-

Stuart

Edited by sstein on Monday 2nd March 20:14