NHS can't deal with dementia
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Mental illness is in the news this week what with Terry Pratchett being knighted today and John Suchet talking about his wife's illness too. The sad fact is that the NHS either can't or won't deal with patients with dementia. My Grandmother has been in an EMI care home for a few years now, eating away at her savings and the money raised from selling her house at the rate of £600/week with absolutely zero contribution from the NHS despite her working until she was 65 and paying tax all her life.
She had a fall last week and broke her hip. She's in hospital at the moment and the staff haven't the foggiest idea how to deal with her. They put food down for her, she leaves it, they take it away. They know that she needs a little encouragement to eat some times, they've seen my mother doing it. They just want rid.
So she can go back to the care home, into the nursing care unit. This costs £900/week. But the good news is that now she needs nursing care, the NHS will contribute.
£103 per week. £103. Out of a total bill for care of £900.
Disgusting. The people running this shambles of a country should hang their heads in shame.
She had a fall last week and broke her hip. She's in hospital at the moment and the staff haven't the foggiest idea how to deal with her. They put food down for her, she leaves it, they take it away. They know that she needs a little encouragement to eat some times, they've seen my mother doing it. They just want rid.
So she can go back to the care home, into the nursing care unit. This costs £900/week. But the good news is that now she needs nursing care, the NHS will contribute.
£103 per week. £103. Out of a total bill for care of £900.
Disgusting. The people running this shambles of a country should hang their heads in shame.
My sympthies. We had similar with my grandfather. The system is grotesquely unfair.
We paid a one off payment of about 55k for him to go into a nursing home for as long as he lived (they gave him no more than two years).
He died two weeks later. So we paid about 27k per week for his care.
Don't know if that makes you feel any better or worse.
We paid a one off payment of about 55k for him to go into a nursing home for as long as he lived (they gave him no more than two years).
He died two weeks later. So we paid about 27k per week for his care.
Don't know if that makes you feel any better or worse.
anonymous said:
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Neither really although I do sympathise. We looked at a similar option about 3 years ago - one-off payment of around £45k. Thus far we have spent about £90k so we are regretting not taking the deal. I guess if we had taken it then your loss would have been our gain. On balance the insurers must win overall or they wouldn't do it. It makes me sick that she spent all her life saving money so my mother could have it, and it will all be spent on care. If she had squandered it, the state would have picked up the tab. As you say, grotesquely unfair.Welcome back BTW!
miniman said:
anonymous said:
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Neither really although I do sympathise. We looked at a similar option about 3 years ago - one-off payment of around £45k. Thus far we have spent about £90k so we are regretting not taking the deal. I guess if we had taken it then your loss would have been our gain. On balance the insurers must win overall or they wouldn't do it. It makes me sick that she spent all her life saving money so my mother could have it, and it will all be spent on care. If she had squandered it, the state would have picked up the tab. As you say, grotesquely unfair.Welcome back BTW!
It is truly dreadful and immoral.
Good to be back, though. Cheers.
The NHS is very good at dealing with immediate problems tht are also quickly fixable, like broken bones etc, but in my experience f
king useless at dealing with long term illness, especially dementia/parkinsons type illnesses.
Sadly once someone goes into a home, the state will take all they have to pay for their care - if she was looked after by a carer then she could get a fair bit of help from anti-social disservices after suitable hassling of the cretins who work there.
king useless at dealing with long term illness, especially dementia/parkinsons type illnesses.Sadly once someone goes into a home, the state will take all they have to pay for their care - if she was looked after by a carer then she could get a fair bit of help from anti-social disservices after suitable hassling of the cretins who work there.
It's a sorry state of affairs when this happens, which it does, everyday.
I'm not 100% sure on how the care system works in terms of paying for it but is there a way of avoiding being in this situation if you can see it coming?
That seems to be the problem with dementia, the person who has it is still entirely responsible for their actions until they are effectively sectioned, by then the time to redirect your assets has passed.
I have experience of treating demented folk, that and disabling strokes are one of cruellest things life can throw at you.
I'm not 100% sure on how the care system works in terms of paying for it but is there a way of avoiding being in this situation if you can see it coming?
That seems to be the problem with dementia, the person who has it is still entirely responsible for their actions until they are effectively sectioned, by then the time to redirect your assets has passed.
I have experience of treating demented folk, that and disabling strokes are one of cruellest things life can throw at you.
IF i had worked till i was of retirement age and paid full taxes I would be very very angry at how much i would have to pay for everything.
My aunt who is 89 and who worked all her life and paid into the system, is very angry that her neighhbours who havent paid into the system get all sorts of benefits and bonuses,
My aunt who is 89 and who worked all her life and paid into the system, is very angry that her neighhbours who havent paid into the system get all sorts of benefits and bonuses,
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