Who would be against it if we started forcibly sterilizing?
Who would be against it if we started forcibly sterilizing?
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randomman

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218 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Just wondering if we followed a similar idea as the yanks in the 30's when they started sterilizing people with single figure IQ's (or thereabouts) without telling them (I think apendix was the excuse used) - who would complain amongst the general public apart from the low IQ's and the 'uman righters?

Driller

8,310 posts

307 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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You cannot do that.

paoloh

8,617 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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randomman said:
Just wondering if we followed a similar idea as the yanks in the 30's when they started sterilizing people with single figure IQ's (or thereabouts) without telling them (I think apendix was the excuse used) - who would complain amongst the general public apart from the low IQ's and the 'uman righters?
You'd fire blanks.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I call godwins law.

/thread

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Driller said:
You cannot do that.
You can. It's whether it's right or not...

Paedos for sure.
People with low IQ's. Not so sure.
Although idiots do make the average person look good smile

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Why? Have you any evidence that people of a low IQ produce problematic offspring?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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randomman said:
Just wondering if we followed a similar idea as the yanks in the 30's when they started sterilizing people with single figure IQ's (or thereabouts) without telling them (I think apendix was the excuse used) - who would complain amongst the general public apart from the low IQ's and the 'uman righters?
Who decides who gets sterilized?

Who decides the IQ level below which the operation is carried out?

What type of tests would be used?

Is IQ the only way of valuing a person's worth?

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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The stupid and the lazy are the ones procreating more than everyone else, and being paid to do it nuts Perhaps we can just reign them in as a start.

On a serious note, no I don't think that's acceptable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


Edited by Neil_H on Thursday 4th December 13:26

randomman

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218 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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thehawk said:
Why? Have you any evidence that people of a low IQ produce problematic offspring?
I can name a few local estates to me where it is the case. I'm not going to generalise though.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Is IQ the only way of valuing a person's worth?
Indeed, some of the worlds greatest minds are/were autistic, disabled, or dyslexic...

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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A baby exam? scratchchin

FourWheelDrift

92,293 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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We do it already.

Do you really think having your tonsils out is a necessary operation?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Is this thread going anywhere sensible or good?

Especially considering the "sticky" on racist and offensive posts.

MK4 Slowride

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237 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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thehawk said:
Why? Have you any evidence that people of a low IQ produce problematic offspring?
Croydon?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Is this thread going anywhere sensible or good?

Especially considering the "sticky" on racist and offensive posts.
It does have the potential to become an interesting anthropological discussion from an advancement of species perspective.

However, I suspect it wont.

Driller

8,310 posts

307 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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NobleGuy said:
Driller said:
You cannot do that.
You can. It's whether it's right or not...

Paedos for sure.
People with low IQ's. Not so sure.
Although idiots do make the average person look good smile
Yes, obviously when I said "cannot" I meant that it was not medically possible.

There was no mention of paedophiles in the OP. Anyway, they specifically should just have the baby making equipment forcibly removed.

gamefreaks

2,067 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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thehawk said:
Why? Have you any evidence that people of a low IQ produce problematic offspring?
How you gonna teach me to read mummy? You can't read yourself!

Davi

17,153 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Don't sterilize, just make it illegal to have offspring if you do not have the financial means to support them. (OK, so we'd have to issue large print simple worded documentation explaining that benefits do not constitute financial means)

carmonk

7,910 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I don't think IQ should have anything to do with it! But in certain cases, such as when parents prove themselves unfit, I think it's a good idea.

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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And so you prevent the production of and future offspring with low intelligence, what happens next? Who will drives our buses, clean our streets, serve in shops, do our tax returns, become a politician etc?