Obama Wins Olympic 100 metres
Obama Wins Olympic 100 metres
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JDH1

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1,017 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Imagine for a moment that Barack Obama isn't a politician, he's a 100 metre runner - and he wins gold at the olympic games. Now it's pretty rare for a white man to win a top class 100 metre race - practically unheard of. In fact I don't believe you'll find one in the top 200 sprinters of all time. So would it be newsworthy (mentioned even) that Obama (a white man) by virtue of having a white mother, had performed the feat?

My guess is that it would not. Nobody would even perceive that a white man had won the race. So here's the thing - what does that say about our attitude to race in these enightened times...when any amount of 'non white' lineage immediately defines someone as black?



Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

246 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Come again? confused

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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I think he's asking why Obama is described as black when he's half-white, half-black and would he ever be described as white?. Unfortunately someone else already asked that: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


BJG1

5,966 posts

242 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Black people win 100m races because they are physically stronger, so surely it follows suit that a half cast would benefit from some of this? Hence it wouldn't be all that notable if he won a 100m sprint, and certainly less notable than a white person winning.

Simpo Two

92,829 posts

295 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Obama is half Kenyan - quite a different physiology from negroes. So if anything, he'd be better at marathons than sprints.

BoRED S2upid

21,058 posts

270 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Thats complete rubbish no white man in the top 200 sprinters of all time.

Simpo Two

92,829 posts

295 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Thats complete rubbish no white man in the top 200 sprinters of all time.
I think he meant 200m

Allan Wells?

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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what is this?

cougargirl

460 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Simpo Two said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Thats complete rubbish no white man in the top 200 sprinters of all time.
I think he meant 200m

Allan Wells?
Is he still alive?

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
what is this?
Pistonheads.

HTH.

Doobs

736 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???

BoRED S2upid

21,058 posts

270 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
Thats helped a lot. So now hes light green. FFS

f13ldy

1,432 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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I think the whole point they are making is that 50/60 years ago Blacks and mixed raced people were considered lower class citizens.

Now a man who is of mixed race has the most important job in the US.

So he gets all the brains of the honkys and all the following of the darkies.

Winning combination.

cougargirl

460 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
Thats helped a lot. So now hes light green. FFS
rofl

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
Very well put.

clap

pp

JDH1

Original Poster:

1,017 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Thats complete rubbish no white man in the top 200 sprinters of all time.
Not that it matters for my point, buy no white athlete has ever beat 10 seconds for 100 metres. The top 200 times are all by non-white athletes.

To go back to the original point, isn't the media and public furor (given Obamas mixed parentage,) intrinsically racist? What it demonstrates is that white can beget black, but black can never beget white.

Doobs

736 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
Thats helped a lot. So now hes light green. FFS
My point was you would still call it green, even if it light green. I can't see how it is so surprising to people that someone who has a white parent, but still looks black gets called black. It's even more surprising that people are shocked that the media is making so much out of the fact he's the first black president.

filski666

3,872 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
so if it was tins of green paint that were enslaved, made to work in the cotton fields and treated abysmally - how did all the African genes get to America/Caribbean ?

Doobs

736 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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filski666 said:
Doobs said:
To try and help you visualise how people view colour - if you had a tin of white paint and a tin of green paint and put half and half in a bowl, you'd end up with a bowl of "light green" paint - not "half green paint" or "half white paint". It's still fking green!

The thing is in America white tins of paint weren't enslaved, only the green ones. So in a country that has it's history it is significant when the first green tin of paint (even if it's just light green) takes the helm. Is it that surprising???
so if it was tins of green paint that were enslaved, made to work in the cotton fields and treated abysmally - how did all the African genes get to America/Caribbean ?
Thomas Cook - fk all leg room apparently

f13ldy

1,432 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th November 2008
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filski666 said:
so if it was tins of green paint that were enslaved, made to work in the cotton fields and treated abysmally - how did all the African genes get to America/Caribbean ?
The slave trade per chance?

White men buy black men to do hard work on boats while they stand about drink rum and touch each other up.

Get to destination, sell black men.