More data goes missing
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081102/tuk-government...
Another good example why ID cards will be a bad idea. How do these private companies get Government contracts? Is it not the same with insurance; the lowest bidder will normally provide the worst service?
Another good example why ID cards will be a bad idea. How do these private companies get Government contracts? Is it not the same with insurance; the lowest bidder will normally provide the worst service?
Edited by krallicious on Sunday 2nd November 09:16
krallicious said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081102/tuk-government...
Another good example why ID cards will be a bad idea. How do these private companies get Government contracts? Is it not the same with insurance; the lowest bidder will norally provide the worst service?
How do these companies get the contracts? backhanders and being "old school chums" of the lying,conniving,two-faced,theiving,useless,waste of organs that are politicians,especially those in charge at the moment!Another good example why ID cards will be a bad idea. How do these private companies get Government contracts? Is it not the same with insurance; the lowest bidder will norally provide the worst service?
You can put all the policies & procedures in place but you will never completely mitigate against human arsewittery.
Take the example of PA consulting, these people are usually pretty damn bright & I count them as one of the better consultancies I have worked with, they still managed to lose data & they are one of the most expensive suppliers. Cheaper providers like Atos, EDS etc will often have some staff who will be ex-PS TUPE'd over to them.
This is only what we hear about. If anything, disclosure in the private sector is worse. There have been countless situations where entire payroll files (Name, address, bank details, DOB etc) have been made available on public network folders. I did one project review where sensitive staff information for 60000 people was protected by the columns being hidden in an Excel file.
Legislation can focus the mind but it needs to be taken seriously. In Austria & Germany data protection is taken very seriously. Even basic stuff can fall under the remit & if you screw up then you can get a heft fine & criminal conviction, your manager & company will be fined too. Funnily enough there is a less cavalier approach to data protection there. It can be annoying at times (we use user activity log data to do a lot of our work) but there are simple ways around it.
Take the example of PA consulting, these people are usually pretty damn bright & I count them as one of the better consultancies I have worked with, they still managed to lose data & they are one of the most expensive suppliers. Cheaper providers like Atos, EDS etc will often have some staff who will be ex-PS TUPE'd over to them.
This is only what we hear about. If anything, disclosure in the private sector is worse. There have been countless situations where entire payroll files (Name, address, bank details, DOB etc) have been made available on public network folders. I did one project review where sensitive staff information for 60000 people was protected by the columns being hidden in an Excel file.
Legislation can focus the mind but it needs to be taken seriously. In Austria & Germany data protection is taken very seriously. Even basic stuff can fall under the remit & if you screw up then you can get a heft fine & criminal conviction, your manager & company will be fined too. Funnily enough there is a less cavalier approach to data protection there. It can be annoying at times (we use user activity log data to do a lot of our work) but there are simple ways around it.
krallicious said:
How do these private companies get Government contracts? Is it not the same with insurance; the lowest bidder will normally provide the worst service?
I'd suggest gullible politicians falling for slick sales patter, and probably backhanders too. Nothing to do with price, after all it's taxpayer money ands that's a bottomless pit... Do the employees who carry such devices actually feel they are carrying something important? If they felt they were carrying their job in their hands, they might take more responsibility... if they think they'll get a telling off, then they might check it once when they put it into a random pocket and once when they take their jacket off at home.
In other words, I don't really blame politicians, as much as I'd like to.
In other words, I don't really blame politicians, as much as I'd like to.
Edited by shadowninja on Sunday 2nd November 09:32
captainzep said:
We're no longer allowed to use our own memory sticks at work (NHS).
We have to order them via our procurement people. One at a time.
Mine's been on order for about 2 months now...
My place is the same. Its gone security stupid.We have to order them via our procurement people. One at a time.
Mine's been on order for about 2 months now...
Laptops have to be locked to desks. No USB type products allowed. Not allowed to read any documents on a train in case anybody is looking over your shoulder.
The amount of work that has been delayed because of it and the hoops you have to jump through to get anything done is complete nonsense.
As somebody has already said it will never be stopped and most of these stories would never have made the news a year or so ago.
bga said:
Legislation can focus the mind but it needs to be taken seriously. In Austria & Germany data protection is taken very seriously. Even basic stuff can fall under the remit & if you screw up then you can get a heft fine & criminal conviction, your manager & company will be fined too. Funnily enough there is a less cavalier approach to data protection there. It can be annoying at times (we use user activity log data to do a lot of our work) but there are simple ways around it.
Given that the guy who left "top secret" intelligence documents on a train only got fined £2500 (what's that, two weeks salary?), it's hardly surprising that there's a still a cavalier attitude to this sort of thing. It was only that high because it was charged as a breach of the official secrets act, not under any of the data protection legislation.Jasandjules said:
I'm glad to hear that some people are having to "jump through hoops" to make some effort in protecting the confidentiality of that information. Quite frankly, I'd rather morons in Govt didn't have any sensitive information in the first place to lose.
What he said. Just ashame that these companies seem to always employ f
kwits.(scampers off to submit CV)
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