Risk Assessments and Method Statements
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Well just sat here writing a risk assessment and method statement for tomorrow.
Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
elster said:
Well just sat here writing a risk assessment and method statement for tomorrow.
Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
At the moment, my life revolves around this rubbish. As a company, we recently were assessed under CHAS (Contractors Health and Safety Assessment Scheme) and failed due to the fact we didn't complete 2 risk assessments within our risk assessment. The idea is that you carry out a preliminary one, state the control measures you will put in place and then perform a residual risk assessment. Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
Fecking ludicrous. Everything on the initial risk assessment was at the highest level possible. Crossing the road? Could die. Control measure? Use the pelican crossing. Residual risk? Corsa boy could pile into you whilst changing the ipod from boom-tiddy-boom-tiddy to tiddy-boom-tiddy-boom.
Companies all over this country are spending millions jumping through the hoops created by do-nothing nobodies who think the be all and end all is making sure you securely foot a pair of steps climbing up to change a light bulb.
And yet, none of it is applicable at home, where you are quite free to hang by a pubic hair from the eaves whilst painting your fascias. Remind me again how we won our freedom on 39 - 45 by taking risks?
Edited to add i might be over reacting here somewhat...
Edited by lenny007 on Wednesday 29th October 22:47
elster said:
Well just sat here writing a risk assessment and method statement for tomorrow.
Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
Why don't you start by sending her these links and ask for her comments?Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
RA/MS doesn't have to be a nightmare.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/fivesteps.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/principlespoints.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/principles.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/april.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/may.htm
And method statements are not for health and safety wimmin, they are for the operatives to ensure that they are carrying out operations to best safety practices. As such they should be as short and succint as possible so they actually get used!
Edited by MOTORVATOR on Thursday 30th October 00:05
My professional life is based upon continual risk assessments. Every single task undertaken offshore is subject to one. I have to review and critique 20+ a day and then ultimately authorise them to allow the work to commence.
It is a worthwhile exercise if it is completed correctly and for the right reasons - i.e. to think the task to be undertaken through logically and identify the hazards and then think of how to eliminate or mitigate them to ultimately make the job safe(r). I have been on the receiving end of our friends from the HSE and trust me you don't want to have anything going wrong (in my industry anyway) without a decent risk assessment having been done.
It is a worthwhile exercise if it is completed correctly and for the right reasons - i.e. to think the task to be undertaken through logically and identify the hazards and then think of how to eliminate or mitigate them to ultimately make the job safe(r). I have been on the receiving end of our friends from the HSE and trust me you don't want to have anything going wrong (in my industry anyway) without a decent risk assessment having been done.
elster said:
Well just sat here writing a risk assessment and method statement for tomorrow.
Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
No, if anyone mentions them in either of my businesses, I fire them immediately.Anyone else have the misfortune of writing these?
I don't really see the point to write out what is common sense. The method statements really get me. I am writing for a health safety woman about a subject she has no idea about to make sure she knows what I am doing.
What happened with common sense?
sleep envy said:
planning supervisors, I mean CDM co-ordinators don't seem to think that
we need method statements to use step ladders now
Driven by regulation, the new working at height regs. I have to have people working off harnesses and inertia reels if they work from the upper reaches of a step ladder now! There used to be a 2m rule and it was only above that height that additional control measures kicked-in, with the new W&H regs literally all work at any height needs some form or risk assessment and fall arrest or restraint consideration. That then drives me down the route of having a second man on site and pre-determined rescue plan to ensure the person cannot suffer suspension trauma if he ends up suspended a few feet up in his harness. Happy days!we need method statements to use step ladders now
sleep envy said:
what's the deal with rigger boots - we've been told they won't be replaced and will be given lace up boots instead
That'll be based on the lack of ankle support in rigger boots. They are actually still allowed offshore, I still wear them myself. A lot of the guys are moving over to lace-ups or the fancy lace-ups that have a zip up the side so they can be taken on/off quicker. steve996 said:
That'll be based on the lack of ankle support in rigger boots. They are actually still allowed offshore, I still wear them myself. A lot of the guys are moving over to lace-ups or the fancy lace-ups that have a zip up the side so they can be taken on/off quicker.
ah, thanks
I am rather good at the risk assessment malarky. Had to do it often in my last job and it's unbelievable some of the stuff you can uncover in your work place.
As already been stated though most of it was an ass covering exercise but the local HSE was rather impressed with the things I had discovered and how I had implemented procedures (one of which saved someones life).
Pity I have no formal qualifications in this area as I would love to do this as a consultant. Most employers just do it for the "ticket" and employee's for that mater never take some of it seriously.
Some of it's way over the top, but that's insurers for you.
For example a letter from an insurer stated "we would like all bowl type urinals to be replace with stainless steel trough types as we feel this would provide a better aim"
And yes I did phone the guy up and ask him if he was "taking the piss".
As already been stated though most of it was an ass covering exercise but the local HSE was rather impressed with the things I had discovered and how I had implemented procedures (one of which saved someones life).
Pity I have no formal qualifications in this area as I would love to do this as a consultant. Most employers just do it for the "ticket" and employee's for that mater never take some of it seriously.
Some of it's way over the top, but that's insurers for you.
For example a letter from an insurer stated "we would like all bowl type urinals to be replace with stainless steel trough types as we feel this would provide a better aim"
And yes I did phone the guy up and ask him if he was "taking the piss".
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