goldfish tank question
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carlymart

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618 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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i have just bought a goldfish tank (for my daughter, fish are coming in a few days)with a small air pump to oxaganate the water
but does the pump need to be on 24 hours a day
when i was younger the fish tank never had anything like that and the fish lasted for years
i was thinking of putting it on a timer so it was off overnight and on during the day
thanks in advance

Penny-lope

13,645 posts

223 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Depends on how many fish you have, how often you clean the tank, and where the tank is located.

If you put some freshwater plants in the tank, this should help with the oxygenation of the water. Although the slimey wee sods will nibble them biggrin

Shaw Tarse

31,892 posts

233 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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carlymart said:
when i was younger the fish tank never had anything like that and the fish lasted for years
I'm sure they did smile <flush toilet> Morning Bob wavey

CaptiV8ted

822 posts

241 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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It's good that you've got an air pump to break the surface of the water. This is how the water gets re-oxygenated. However, more important than a pump is a filter of some sort. For a small tank, a basic sponge unit is fine and can be driven by your air pump. Equally important the water you put in it. Always treat it with 'Aquasafe' or something similar, which neutralises the chlorine in the supply. This is very toxic to fish.

It's an easy routine, clean the filter in old tank water, put in some fresh treated water and don't overstock your tank!

As for turning off the pump at night, it's not a problem really. I used to do this with my old tank years ago and some of my fish were 9 yrs old when I gave them away when I joined the Navy.

HTH

carlymart

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Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Shaw Tarse said:
carlymart said:
when i was younger the fish tank never had anything like that and the fish lasted for years
I'm sure they did smile <flush toilet> Morning Bob wavey
i had thought of that as well
thats why its goldfish

carlymart

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Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Penny-lope said:
Depends on how many fish you have, how often you clean the tank, and where the tank is located.

If you put some freshwater plants in the tank, this should help with the oxygenation of the water. Although the slimey wee sods will nibble them biggrin
only 2 fish its not a huge tank

Simpo Two

92,849 posts

295 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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It's also to do with surface area vs volume of water. 'Goldfish bowls' are bad for this as little oxygen can diffuse in naturally.

carlymart

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244 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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http://www.seapets.co.uk/product-details/stkcode/9...
this is the tank we have
it will hold two fish and we have used some of the stuff to remove the chorine from the water
it does have a filter it pumps water up and over a filter and back to the tank

dundarach

6,227 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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i leave my air pump on all day for two gold fish however only switch the filter pump on a couple of hours a day and the water stays nice and clean and the fish are fat and happy.

Blib

48,123 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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If it is just a 'bubble making' air pump, then you can turn it off. If it is a filter unit, i.e' it has some 'wool' in a cube which the pump draws water through, then do not turn it off.

If you do so, then the bacteria which will reside in the 'wool' will die and rot, so contaminating the water.

Make sure that you replace 20% of the water each week. Tap water is adequate for goldfish, but I would recommend a water conditioner.

Make sure that the replacement water is at the same temperature as the water in the tank. A dose of cold tap water can damage fish.

Resist the temptation to overfill the tank with fish. This stresses them and leads to disease and early deaths.

Makes me want to go out and buy a tank now! hehe


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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IMO if the fish cant get enough oxygen without the air pump (i.e. the right surface area) then the tanks too small for the fish.


Get a decent internal filter (fluval 3 etc) and leaev it at that.

carlymart

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618 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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thanks for all the replys
the filter is just water driping over a filter and down into the tank

tuglet

1,259 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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carlymart said:
thanks for all the replys
the filter is just water driping over a filter and down into the tank
Goldfish are very dirty fish. They produce a lot of waste. I would invest in a decent filter and a water test kit if you want your fish to last. Google "nitrogen cycle goldfish"; there are loads of good resources on the web. I have a 4ft (120litre) tank with 7 goldfish and I think my Fluval4 is barely adequate. I'm considering upgrading to an external filter.

Also take time to observe their natural behaviour; you will be better placed to spot when they're not happy e.g. lethargic, not feeding, fins clamped tight to the body etc... Most golfish problems are caused by poor water conditions: high ammonia, high nitrite and/or nitrate levels, high/low pH level. You can't see these dangers; you must test for them regularly, and look for changes in your fish's behaviour.

And finally, don't over feed them!!! This is the most common mistake made by new goldfish keepers. If you're using flake food, a couple of flakes per fish, once a day is adequate. They can go several weeks without eating.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Or buy a heater and spme proper fish. tropical are nicer and no more hastle.

Olf

11,978 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Best thing to do is once a day fill a bottle with water from the tank stick it through the soda stream and then pour it back in a again.



carlymart

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618 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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again thanks for the good advise
from you all

Blib

48,123 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Olf said:
Best thing to do is once a day fill a bottle with water from the tank stick it through the soda stream and then pour it back in a again.
Now, that's interesting.

scratchchin

Olf

11,978 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Clever eh?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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No. What happens when your away for the weekend or the power fails, your fish suffocate?

B16JUS

2,386 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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blimy that sounds a lot for a fish, when i was a wee boy i had a goldfish ina bowl with stones at the bottom no fancy electrics etc

J