Democracy - but only if we like the result...
Discussion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselect...
t?
It's the USA not fecking Zimbabwe.
It's like saying if Labour manage to get re-elected I'm going to do a Guy Fawkes!
David Swanson said:
If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying.
You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.
We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.
Err. WTF!? So if the American people elect the "wrong" guy you're going to go apesYou should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.
We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.
t? It's the USA not fecking Zimbabwe.
It's like saying if Labour manage to get re-elected I'm going to do a Guy Fawkes!
Ah, I bring you, Leftie attitudes.
A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
Jasandjules said:
Ah, I bring you, Leftie attitudes.
A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
I don't know if it's "leftie" or not. But it would appear to be highly undemocratic. A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
Don said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselect...
t?
It's the USA not fecking Zimbabwe.
It's like saying if Labour manage to get re-elected I'm going to do a Guy Fawkes!
I think he's saying that the Republicans can only win by cheating so if they win, democracy is already broken. Does seem a bit of an idiot though. David Swanson said:
If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying.
You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.
We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.
Err. WTF!? So if the American people elect the "wrong" guy you're going to go apesYou should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.
We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.
t? It's the USA not fecking Zimbabwe.
It's like saying if Labour manage to get re-elected I'm going to do a Guy Fawkes!
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
This is most certainly true. But the Americans' system is reasonably good isn't it? I remember the business about Florida and the "chads" when Bush was first elected but, really, this is the US not some banana republic.Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
JMGS4 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
JMGS4 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
According to the various newspaper reports of all political directions he was born and brought up Muslim in (Hawaii) SORRY WRONG - In Jakarta Indonesia the largest MUSLIM state in the world in a Muslim school, then turned "born again"... if you have reliable other sources then please quote them and I'll retract...
IMO he's deliberately hiding his upbringing...
IMO he's deliberately hiding his upbringing...
Edited by JMGS4 on Friday 24th October 10:04
Jasandjules said:
Ah, I bring you, Leftie attitudes.
A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
I don't think that attitude is particular to any one political group.A bit like "Freedom of Speech", for lefties means to spout out their cr*p, but not to permit right wing people to say what they want. A great man once told the Labour Council, Freedom of Speech means freedom for those things with which you disagree, as well as those with which you agree.
Edited by SamHH on Friday 24th October 09:58
JMGS4 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
"Shady racist balck (sic)radical"
"Half-caste"
"Sly lawyer"
"Play the race card"
"Scary biblebelt blacks"
"Half Kenyan muslim"
Wow - just wow.
JMGS4 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Why on earth detailed policies should be presented prior to having the proper resource and info sources, that the elected gov would have, is beyond me.
And the President is just the guy on top of the pyramid, the pyramid being all the clever policy makers below.
Politics is about persona not policies.
JMGS4 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its only democracy if the votes are counted properly.
Especially as the Obama camp are already under suspicion of rigging votes through some shady racist balck radical organisations....FFS just because he's a half-caste it does NOT mean he's a feckin Messiah!!!
He has NO programme, NO answers apart from raising taxes, and the most important NO EXPERIENCE!!! He's a very smart sly lawyer who knows how to play the race card, especially to the scary biblebelt blacks, apart from that USELESS!!!
I'm not saying McCain is the be all and end all, but he's more experience in his little finger than this half Kenyan muslim turned born again radical Christian!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
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