Last pluming question, honest Ferg
Last pluming question, honest Ferg
Author
Discussion

miniman

Original Poster:

30,091 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
Have asked my plumber (I found one who turned up!) to remove a radiator in the bathroom and replace it with a towel radiator, which I want placed on the wall behind the bath. He's saying he doesn't advise fixing a rad to a plasterboard wall.

Any thoughts on this?

ETA: Pluming? COCK.

Edited by miniman on Thursday 23 October 19:48

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all

nownek

408 posts

242 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
miniman said:
Have asked my plumber (I found one who turned up!) to remove a radiator in the bathroom and replace it with a towel radiator, which I want placed on the wall behind the bath. He's saying he doesn't advise fixing a rad to a plasterboard wall.

Any thoughts on this?

ETA: Pluming? COCK.

Edited by miniman on Thursday 23 October 19:48
I fitted my towel radiator to a plasterboard wall and the world hasn't ended. Yet.

Just make sure that two of the fixing points are attached to the wooden cross pieces inside the wall.

elwe

192 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
I can't see a problem with a radiator on a plaster board wall, so long as the fixings are capable of taking the weight.

I have 2 radiators in my flat that are on plasterboard walls. They have been there for 26 years.

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
Ways and means.... there are always ways and means.... hehe

eldar

25,292 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
elwe said:
I can't see a problem with a radiator on a plaster board wall, so long as the fixings are capable of taking the weight.

I have 2 radiators in my flat that are on plasterboard walls. They have been there for 26 years.
Just use proper plasterboard fixingssmile Or hit the battens.....

No probs.

dickbastardly

450 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
how does he think they put radiators in new houses where most walls are plaster board??
just use heavy duty screw-in wall plugs on the fixings.
regards
Andy

miniman

Original Poster:

30,091 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
dickbdly said:
how does he think they put radiators in new houses where most walls are plaster board??
just use heavy duty screw-in wall plugs on the fixings.
regards
Andy
He says that they are fixed to noggins between the studs. Which is not true as far as I can tell. I have asked him to fit the towel rad in an "interesting" location, in terms of pipework. So I susepct he's not entirely keen on the idea. I will fit it and get him on the case! Thanks all smile

dickbastardly

450 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
i think i would hit him over the head with a nogging!!
BS me think,
As you say it is probably easier for him to put it somewhere else!!
regards
Andy

robinhood21

31,146 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
At a guess, would say the additional work involved with fitting the rad on the wall behind the bath has a lot something to do with your plumbers comment.

miniman

Original Poster:

30,091 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
robinhood21 said:
At a guess, would say the additional work involved with fitting the rad on the wall behind the bath has a lot something to do with your plumbers comment.
That's what I figured - it's not like it's a fixed-price job, it's just running a couple of pipes under the floor and up through the tiles behind the bath. That's what plumbers do, isn't it?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
No problem at all. No weight in a towel rail anyway. Just need to use the correct fixings.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/33559/Fixings/Cavity...

He probably doesnt want the hassle of moving the flow and return pipework (dont know why, thats his job). Easier for him if its kept in the same place I guess but surely he would charge less anyway.

Stu R

21,658 posts

245 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
not a problem whatsoever in popping them onto plasterboard walls, loads of em in my house are, have been for years, and aren't knowingly screwed to noggins.

miniman

Original Poster:

30,091 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
B17NNS said:
No problem at all. No weight in a towel rail anyway. Just need to use the correct fixings.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/33559/Fixings/Cavity...

He probably doesnt want the hassle of moving the flow and return pipework (dont know why, thats his job). Easier for him if its kept in the same place I guess but surely he would charge less anyway.
Never had much success with those fixings but might give it another try. Slight complicating factor is that the wall is tiled so can't really use my preferred option, the metal spiral plasterboard fixings.

robinhood21

31,146 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
What break tiles - Yep!

There could be studs in the way behind the plasterboard, so not always an easy job to carryout. Might be a case of gaining access from 'tother side of the wall to make the connections so less chance of damage to the tiles.

miniman

Original Poster:

30,091 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
robinhood21 said:
What break tiles - Yep!

There could be studs in the way behind the plasterboard, so not always an easy job to carryout. Might be a case of gaining access from 'tother side of the wall to make the connections so less chance of damage to the tiles.
Nah, essentially behind the bath there is a row of tiles (i.e. horizontally laid rather than vertically on the wall if you get my drift) so the pipes will come up vertically, from the void under the back of the bath, through the tiles.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
Through tiles into PBoard I use these...

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/58219/Fixings/Cavity...

Either way, the job is very doable. Just find another plumber with more of a 'yes boss, no problem, I will need to do this, this and this and it will cost that' attitude.

Edited by B17NNS on Thursday 23 October 21:29

robinhood21

31,146 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
miniman said:
Nah, essentially behind the bath there is a row of tiles (i.e. horizontally laid rather than vertically on the wall if you get my drift) so the pipes will come up vertically, from the void under the back of the bath, through the tiles.
In that case, I can't see too much of a problem.

Simpo Two

92,863 posts

295 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
quotequote all
I have a curved towel rail/radiator on a stud wall. I fitted two crosspieces of timber at top and bottom behind the plasterboard so the fixings have something to bite into. Easy smile

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

284 months

Friday 24th October 2008
quotequote all
I didn't piss about when I wanted a rad on my bathroom plasterboard wall. I just ripped the boards off, nailed in some new noggins and boarded it back up again. Slap on some tiles and Robert's your maternal sibling biggrin
That said, half the rads in the rest of the house are screwed to noggins, the rest have plasterboard fixings (and you don't sit on them)....