Repugnant children in pubs
Repugnant children in pubs
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Vesuvius 996

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35,829 posts

301 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/fo...


F ckn' A.


Good Pub Guide said:
“People have finally snapped. Children are driving them mad. This is not about the weather keeping kids inside the pub, this is everywhere. Lots of people have reported it to us. Of course it is the parents’ fault.”
CAMRA bloke said:
"Feedback from pubgoers included remarks such as “I am sick of going into a pub and feeling I’m at play school.”
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Wednesday 15th October 10:08

Saied

1,575 posts

249 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Pubs should be an adult environment.

I would never drink in a pub that's like a fking zoo with screaming brats running around.

I've walked out of a few that were like this inside, too.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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To be fair adults do need somewhere they can go to be adults. I was in the pub on Friday speaking in Anglo Saxon and was glared at by a parent because their children were present. No I never swear in front of children, but I was in a pub FFS.

Edited by rhinochopig on Wednesday 15th October 10:23

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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In the summer I've been to the pub with my mate and his two kids a couple of times to sit in the garden, and once to sit inside. But one is a baby so sleeps in a corner and the other is well behaved. There's no need at all for kids running about, or for kids out in pubs after 9pm.

In fact, one pub round here has a condition on its license that kids under 14 are only allowed in up to 8pm, which seems reasonable.

Gold

1,998 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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I don't know, it depends on the kind of pub. I was brought up/there are still many (rural) areas where the pub is the centre of community and for example on a Sunday you will find many (often large) families going for a pint or two between church and the sunday roast.

It's once again just the small minority, usually of the "underclass" who tend to have uncontrollable kids running amok.

Pubs can and (should be?) family places during the daytime where families can socialise within the local community.

Vesuvius 996

Original Poster:

35,829 posts

301 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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It's a peculiarly British disease.

Go for an expensive meal in France, or Italy, and the kids are always there until 10pm but you never hear a peep out of them.

Go for a meal in London and your night is ruined by Jocaster and Quentin.


Really boils my you know what.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Saied said:
Pubs should be an adult environment.

I would never drink in a pub that's like a fking zoo with screaming brats running around.

I've walked out of a few that were like this inside, too.
As the Times article pointed out, this is a English/British problem (not quite sure, haven't drunk much in Wales/Scotland/NI).

In my experience of drinking in English pubs and restaurants, intolerance of some punters is evenly matched by thoughtlessness of some parents. At least the children have the excuse of being children.

This has been done to death a few times on P&P before though.

Taita

8,002 posts

233 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Pubs are for drinking and swearing. fk the kids.


Ahhh Moneypenny

4,100 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Vesuvius 996 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/fo...


F ckn' A.


Good Pub Guide said:
“People have finally snapped. Children are driving them mad. This is not about the weather keeping kids inside the pub, this is everywhere. Lots of people have reported it to us. Of course it is the parents’ fault.”
CAMRA bloke said:
"Feedback from pubgoers included remarks such as “I am sick of going into a pub and feeling I’m at play school.”
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Wednesday 15th October 10:08
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Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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For people who dont understand, you need family pubs in order to enjoy a pint whilst you have kids, you cant leave them at home alone.

My Kids are pretty well behaved when they are out, i wish the same could be said when they are at home! They will quite happily play in the play area with out shouting or screaming.

we are not all grumpy old men who go to the pub to enjoy a glass of brandy and talk about the good old days.


plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Simple solution to this. Start conversation in loud voice:

"Jack is popping in later on. Just finished his 5 year prison sentence for kiddy fiddling" That should get the parents + kids out sharpish.

968CSReading

3,088 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Got to agree and I have kids.

A proper drinkers pub is not the place for kids anyway. Family pubs are different.

The Plough in Aylesbury went through a revamp with new owners and they made the mistake of not allowing children in. When it opened no one came to eat there. After a week they changed their minds and when we went the other week it was packed.

Although the main bar area (with football showing etc) was for adults only which is fair enough IMO.

Bruggy

131 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Gold said:
It's once again just the small minority, usually of the "underclass" who tend to have uncontrollable kids running amok.
Kindly give us your definition of who you consider to be the underclass?

walm

10,644 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Some pubs are obviously kid-friendly and some aren't.

The signs are pretty clear - lots of kids, for example.
Go to another pub.

As a new parent with a irrationally screaming baby on my hands, I sometimes need a pint.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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walm said:
As a new parent with a irrationally screaming baby on my hands, I sometimes need a pint.
Noise-cancelling headphones are your friend.

Eddh

4,656 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Taita said:
fk the kids.
nono You will get into a lot of trouble for that!

wildoliver

9,314 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
For people who dont understand, you need family pubs in order to enjoy a pint whilst you have kids, you cant leave them at home alone.

My Kids are pretty well behaved when they are out, i wish the same could be said when they are at home! They will quite happily play in the play area with out shouting or screaming.

we are not all grumpy old men who go to the pub to enjoy a glass of brandy and talk about the good old days.
Yes but now just about all pubs are family pubs. It's all you can do to find an "adult" atmosphere without going to a complete fleapit where your feet stick to the floor. It's the parents faults they have kids why should the rest of us have to pay for it!

And while your kids may be well behaved (and I know I was as a kid due to having the fear of god put in to me by parents) most aren't.

Incidentally I'm only 27, don't consider myself a grumpy old man, but do get sick of other people putting themselves and their families on others.

Badgerboy

1,794 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Eddh said:
Taita said:
fk the kids.
nono You will get into a lot of trouble for that!
Yeah, being drunk is no excuse. I imagine it would raise a few eyebrows.

henpecked

110 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Must be an English thing, I think pubs up here can only have children in when serving food, and it has to in an area out of sight of the bar? So in good pubs, no kids, I don't often visit beefeater type establishments. If in England we tend to look for drinkers pubs, more interested with the quality of the beer than bringing in family custom so rarely have this problem.

walm

10,644 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
walm said:
As a new parent with a irrationally screaming baby on my hands, I sometimes need a pint.
Noise-cancelling headphones are your friend.
Hmmm - I like your thinking...