Please vote, her campaign is to improve access for disabled

[yesplease]

Please vote for this girl. Her campaign is for better access for the disabled, but you can read morre on the webpage. You don't have to fill in anything just need to click. http://battlefront.co.uk/campaign/exclusively-publ... I know if any website can boost her votes and get this girl through with her campaign, it's pistonheads!

Thank you

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 17:57

[V8mate]

Troll

[yesplease]

V8mate said:

Troll

People assume that very quickly don't they. No I'd probably be cynical also. No I'm just a Mother of 2 children with disabilities who really hopes this passionate young lady gets the credit she deserves and goes forward to help change the future for the access for people with disabilities. I followed this site and supported the fundraising when Hammond was involved in the accident and seen how much support there was so thought maybe a little of the same for such a good cause wouldn't be too much to ask sorry to disappoint your troll hunting instinct. Yes I am aware of the spam someone has posted and hope it's deleted soon (it has been reported) as the site is accessed by children supporting their friend.

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:07

[V8mate]

I'm a father of a daughter with a disability but I don't join random forums simply to bang a gong

[welshbikerduck]

I don't mean to sound unsympathetic here, and i will admit i have not read the link.

But don't you think that the disabled get more than enough concesions over everyone else in this country? Infact to the point of being a significant burden to many business?

[yesplease]

V8mate said:

I'm a father of a daughter with a disability but I don't join random forums simply to bang a gong

Maybe so, but each to their own, I have read this forum for much longer, I have participated in the past but have since changed my email address etc so chose to reregister

[Parrot of Doom]

I read the link. It seems to suggest that (eg) a newsagent should spend money moving things around to make it easier for disabled folk to use the shop.

Not a bad idea, but should we be forcing such businesses to spend that money? It wouldn't be cheap. What if I ran a butchers shop with a traditional frontage - should I change it and install a ramp, and ruin the architectural value of that building?

I think not.

[yesplease]

welshbikerduck said:

I don't mean to sound unsympathetic here, and i will admit i have not read the link.

But don't you think that the disabled get more than enough concesions over everyone else in this country? Infact to the point of being a significant burden to many business?

You are more than entitled to your opinion and it would be pointless me arguing over something such as this as your views are obviously rather strong, as are mine, but thanks for your reply.

A lot of the things pointed out such as the cost in adaptations, they don't need to be expensive, we have installed small wooden ramps for a small cost in many places which increase access. Moving a few shelves costs nothing usually.

I think one thing to remember with disability, is it could effect anyone at any time. I try to think how I would feel if it was me left behind by society disabling me if I was injured/took ill.

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:18

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:19

[Ganglandboss]

We have perfectly adequate disabled provisions in this country.

[BOR]

Streuth. Can't we cut people a bit of slack ? Voted "yes"

[BigLepton]

yesplease said:

Maybe so, but each to their own, I have read this forum for much longer, I have participated in the past but have since changed my email address etc so chose to reregister

What was your user name when you used to participate?

[welshbikerduck]

yesplease said:

welshbikerduck said:

I don't mean to sound unsympathetic here, and i will admit i have not read the link.

But don't you think that the disabled get more than enough concesions over everyone else in this country? Infact to the point of being a significant burden to many business?

You are more than entitled to your opinion and it would be pointless me arguing over something such as this as your views are obviously rather strong, as are mine, but thanks for your reply.

A lot of the things pointed out such as the cost in adaptations, they don't need to be expensive, we have installed small wooden ramps for a small cost in many places which increase access. Moving a few shelves costs nothing usually.

I think one thing to remember with disability, is it could effect anyone at any time. I try to think how I would feel if it was me left behind by society disabling me if I was injured/took ill.

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:18

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:19

I was just thinking how refreshing for someone from the disabled lobby to be so reasonable and respect other peoples views. Then with your edits you slipped back to the annoying preaching chant that so many people myself included find annoying.

You say that these modifications are not always expensive. Let me ask you a simple question will you pay for them? Or will you expect the business to pay (as always) I find it quite insulting when someone preaches about how other people should spend their money for the benefit of the person doing the preaching.

[Balmoral Green]

Blue John cavern, Castleton, Derbyshire, after providing disabled access...



Sorry, I know it's a serious thread. But then, perhaps my post makes a serious point?

[Maxf]

The DDA seems to have struck a reasonable compromise between access for the disabled and alteration of property. Not sure there is much need for change tbh.

[yesplease]

I believed it was lil_me as it is on many other sites but I may be incorrect, my old car, well I still have it but it's for sale, should be on here somewhere too.....not that it matters. I am not bothered by doubters. I have asked for peoples support, this girl is trying to be added as a campaigner for battlefront. She is extremely passionate about her cause and I support her, if you don;t wish to, don't click, it's easy really.

Preaching isn't me, not at all, I have spent my own money and time improving access for businesses, work with councils and planning on finding good value solutions for access issues and more recently with service providers to improve access to services for those with complex needs. I don't plan on preaching and spend a lot of my own time and money trying to improve things for future children/adults. Thanks for asking

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:32

[jeff m]

To be honest, I think you would have been received more favourably if you had just updated your e mail address (like everybody else) A new user name makes it seem trollish.
After all it's a noble cause.
Not like you've impregnated your Sister

Good luck.

[King Herald]

The link said:

.....Most wheelchair users find that even going to the shops is difficult. What use is having access into the shop if the isles aren’t wide enough, or the shelves are too high?! Similar problems are encountered in other public places on a daily basis. Stop exclusiveness in public places. Now.

Does this mean that all shelves should be at wheelchair height? Does it mean pubs should have the bar lowered to allow wheelchair uses to rest an elbow on it whilst drinking? Do all Post boxes in the country need lower orifices so wheelchair users can reach them?

I mean, where does it end? Compulsory subtitles on all movies at cinemas, so deaf people can 'hear' what is going on?

I firmly believe in assisting the lesser able, within reason, but there is a percentage of people who will not rest until the above (jocular) suggestions are made reality.

[yesplease]

King Herald I see your point, I understand no world would be perfect for everyone as much as you do. I for example would be unhappy if sharp knives were on a low shelf in a shop as young children could get to them (however this does come a lot down to supervision)

I know this young lady personally and know she doesn't expect everything to be perfect, just usable. We have a lower area in a bar near us, cost them nothing to lop a little bit off. We have a shop keeper who can't use lower shelves but has made every effort when a disabled person comes into the store to make sure they are assisted. Strange thing is I think most people with a disability would love to swap someone and be able bodied, they would love to fit in the way society is now, they're not asking for miracles but support in being more independant.


Anyway, I'm not going to say anything else on this matter. Everyone has their own opinions and is entitled to them.

Edited by yesplease on Friday 3rd October 18:52

[elster]

yesplease said:

Strange thing is I think most people with a disability would love to swap someone and be able bodied, they would love to fit in the way society is now, they're not asking for miracles but support in being more independant.

All physically disabled people I know are quite happy with who they are.

My best friend and her family looks after severely disabled (mentally and physically) kids to give the parents a break for weekends. All the time I have the spent with the 4 kids and the places we have been to we have never really had any problem.

[Wheelrepairit]

[/quote]Yeh fancy a disabled person trying to get into a shop to spend some of their benefits, leave em outside I say.
[/quote]

You ignorant donut