participate IN, or participate WITH

[carter711]

Dispute with a collegue...

He thinks it should be said 'the group shall participate IN testing'

I say it should be said 'the group shall participate WITH testing'

Who is right?

[Swilly]

carter711 said:

Dispute with a collegue...

He thinks it should be said 'the group shall participate IN testing'

I say it should be said 'the group shall participate WITH testing'

Who is right?

Participate IN ....

[walm]

carter711 said:

Dispute with a collegue...

He thinks it should be said 'the group shall participate IN testing'

I say it should be said 'the group shall participate WITH testing'

Who is right?

Who is Testing?

[Famous Graham]

Depends.

If "testing" is an activity, then it's "in".

If "testing" is a name (ie a group of testers), then it's "with".

[bigandclever]

Is 'tetsing' a group of people, or a process?

Anyway it's "colleague", I'd keep my head down

See what I did there?

Edited by bigandclever on Thursday 18th September 10:27

[2something]

I would say 'in'.

Team GB participated IN the Olympics WITH a view to beat the Aussies.

ETA:
the others are correct, you can use 'with' if it's with a team called testing.

Edited by 2something on Thursday 18th September 10:27

[HundredthIdiot]

"Participate in" is my preference, and is more common.

Google says:

Results 1 - 100 of 11,400 English pages from co.uk for "participate with".
Results 1 - 100 of 1,170,000 English pages from co.uk for "participate in".
Results 1 - 100 of about 606,000 English pages for "participate with" site:com
Results 1 - 100 of about 40,200,000 English pages for "participate in" site:com

[B.J.W]

Testing, Testing.

'IN'

[2something]

You could say ... the group shall participate, with testing being one of the tasks ...

Punctuation matters, though I am crap at it.

[carter711]

Looks like I'm wrong, i'll be keeping quiet about it then...

[Digger.]

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

[HundredthIdiot]

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

[carter711]

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

That's true, if you talked with someone you'd both be saying the same thing.

[Digger.]

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

Nice talking with you

[Yugguy]

I participate IN a team-building event WITH my colleagues.

There you go.

[HundredthIdiot]

Digger. said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

Nice talking with you

Go with hell.

[Digger.]

carter711 said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

That's true, if you talked with someone you'd both be saying the same thing.

With makes it sound more inclusive, more PC and friendly, dont we (inclusive) think?

[Digger.]

Yugguy said:

I participate IN a team-building event WITH my colleagues.

There you go.

Thats a specific event and not referring to those individuals you will later participate WITH.

[Einion Yrth]

Digger. said:

carter711 said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

That's true, if you talked with someone you'd both be saying the same thing.

With makes it sound more inclusive, more PC and friendly, dont we (inclusive) think?

We could, for that purpose, use the verb 'converse', and be grammatically correct too.

Edited by Einion Yrth on Thursday 18th September 11:50

[HundredthIdiot]

Digger. said:

carter711 said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Digger. said:

I always try to say with, as in I dont talk to somebody, i talk with somebody. Just sounds more logical to me.

You cannot talk with someone. You talk to them, they talk to you. You converse with each other.

That's true, if you talked with someone you'd both be saying the same thing.

With makes it sound more inclusive, more PC and friendly, dont we (inclusive) think?

Those sorts of considerations irritate me. I'm easily irritated. This alleviates me of the need to choose whether "talk to" or "talk with" is more appropriate - in my case it's always "argue with".