Chipping / Mapping Boat Engines
Chipping / Mapping Boat Engines
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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minimax

11,985 posts

286 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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i'm not much help, but I do want to ask: why are boat engines so low powered? comparitively that is to cars?

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tomTVR

6,909 posts

271 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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They are just small block chevys to very tunable. Get a procharger for it, not as expensive as you think although at full tilt you WILL be doing gallons per mile yikes

schmalex

13,616 posts

236 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Also tell him to look at surface piercing props or just simply changing the prop diameter. Surface piercing props are a lot more efficient than sunk props & will boost performance a lot more than chipping



Edited by schmalex on Friday 5th September 22:23

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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minimax said:
i'm not much help, but I do want to ask: why are boat engines so low powered? comparitively that is to cars?

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torque at lower revs is more useful than "blending" the water at hi speed and power.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

231 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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minimax said:
i'm not much help, but I do want to ask: why are boat engines so low powered? comparitively that is to cars?

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How many forward gears does your average boat have, comparatively that is to cars ?

You need a flat enough torque curve to enable the prop to pull throughout the rev range unless you want to start talking about variable pitch props, pretty much unheard of in leisure boating.

You can tune your engine for increased power at the top end sure, but if that comes at a loss of low end torques such that the prop will stall the engine at anything less than 20 knots, then getting back into your marina berth is going to be fun.

Edited by Seight_Returns on Friday 5th September 22:22

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Quite happy to admit that I know nothing about engines and chipping/modding.......however....

How is the prop driven? by a reduction gearbox or direct drive?

Increasing power will presumably increase prop RPM? I would wonder at what rotational speed the propeller will start to cavitate? I guess its not much over the prop RPM at current max power. You may require a new propeller after you have modded your engine as you could find that you have decreased your powertrain output capability.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

264 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Well I would assume that it's quite a different beast to a car engine. Possibly the same case, heads, pistons etc, but would imagine the cams and compression are specific to the application. Specifically I guess it doesn't need the low down torque in this application and engine life is more important than out and out power. Presumably it spends a fair amount of time at constant RPM and has a completely different cooling system also.

None of that means it can't be tuned, but I'd be wary of using an automotive engine map!

BigLepton

5,042 posts

231 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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schmalex said:
Also tell him to look at surface piercing props or just simply changing the prop diameter. Surface piercing props are a lot more efficient than sunk props & will boost performance a lot more than chipping



Edited by schmalex on Friday 5th September 22:23
The problem is a surface drive increases top speed but greatly reduces acceleration - probably not what he wants in a loaded boat in the solent.

minimax

11,985 posts

286 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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Seight_Returns said:
minimax said:
i'm not much help, but I do want to ask: why are boat engines so low powered? comparitively that is to cars?

smile
How many forward gears does your average boat have, comparatively that is to cars ?

You need a flat enough torque curve to enable the prop to pull throughout the rev range unless you want to start talking about variable pitch props, pretty much unheard of in leisure boating.

You can tune your engine for increased power at the top end sure, but if that comes at a loss of low end torques such that the prop will stall the engine at anything less than 20 knots, then getting back into your marina berth is going to be fun.

Edited by Seight_Returns on Friday 5th September 22:22
gotcha - I knew it must be a simple reason hehe

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smr450

21 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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speak to James Walker at BDK Race Engineering 01508 481713.He builds all my motorcycle race motors and has had some good results of late with marine stuff.Top man too.

matchmaker

9,068 posts

230 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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[quote=minimax]i'm not much help, but I do want to ask: why are boat engines so low powered? comparitively that is to cars?



For longevity & reliability. If the engine in your car breaks down on a wet, windy night - inconvenient. If you are 20 miles from land in a gale and the engine in your boat stops - nasty.