Euro's - cant get any worse can it?
Euro's - cant get any worse can it?
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V8OWNER

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602 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Somebody with a better idea than me care to comment?!

yesterdays low.. E 1.245 to £1

cloggy

4,959 posts

239 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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BoE interest rates.

Timmy33

13,014 posts

228 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Yes it can. Alot.

Skipppy

1,136 posts

240 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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I think it could get a fair bit worse to be honest...

We're in for further rate cuts which will weaken sterling. I don't think we've seen the end of the credit crunch either and the UK is not in the best position to deal with that either.

Mikey G

4,894 posts

270 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Its a government conspiracy i tell you, when it gets to around 1-1 they will anounce it is now time to adopt the Euro as we are now on an equal footing with the rest of them.....

215cu

2,956 posts

240 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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The French and German economies seem to shaking off their worst socialist instincts and are cutting taxes and starting to grow quite nicely. Has a result they look like a nice safe bet for riding out the worst of the credit crunch.

The US and UK are not such a safe bet.

You want a real appraisal of the economic outlook, look at exchange rates over the last 12 months.

The US is f-ed.

So is the UK not quite to the same extent.

130R

7,109 posts

236 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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With captain Darling at the helm the only way is down. Having said that the credit crunch hasn't really hit the Eurozone yet.

ATG

23,811 posts

302 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Yes, it makes holidays more expensive, but it's good news for UK business.

Globulator

13,847 posts

261 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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It can, but if you notice we (the UK treasury) and the US keep on tweaking our interest rates.

Interest rates are the biggest levers on a currency.

The very same levers that Bliar and brown-bottom wanted to give to the ECB.

If the 'one lever for all' euro (which is under great stress with hands pulling it both ways) actually starts cracking seriously then we will see chaos and mayhem in the eurozone.

article said:
Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas, said the ECB had its head in the sand. "They are not looking at the tidal wave that is about to roll straight over them. Balance-sheet stress in Europe is just as bad as it is in the US. The reporting periods are different, so the bad news has not yet come out," he said.

Critics say the ECB's staff have misread the eurozone's credit data, mistaking a 14.8pc surge in corporate loans for evidence of buoyancy. "This is merely a substitution effect. The market for securities has collapsed. Companies are instead turning to their existing credit lines. The question is what will happen when these run out," added Mr Redeker.

Julian Callow, Europe economist at Barclays Capital, said eurozone banks are cutting back "radically" on new credit lines, portending a slowdown in lending later this year. He expects the ECB to cut rates twice in coming months as the credit squeeze bites.

"The economy is grinding ever slower. In Spain there has been a dramatic deterioration in business confidence," he said. Spanish bankruptcies rocketed 74pc in the first quarter. Car sales fell 28pc in March. Half of Spain's 80,000 estate agencies have already shut down, laying off 120,000 staff.
Which will obviously help all the non-euro currencies. If I had spare cash I'd probably be looking for a harder currency - like swiss or danish.

ETA: Quote - do not expect the euro to win for too long.

Edited by Globulator on Friday 11th April 10:41

2something

2,145 posts

238 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Parity,
That's what Gordon Brown did to me,
At one to one, there is no more Ring
and when in Nice we we just buy bling ...

Timmy33

13,014 posts

228 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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ATG said:
Yes, it makes holidays more expensive, but it's good news for UK business.
And the US tourism industry.

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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ATG said:
Yes, it makes holidays more expensive, but it's good news for UK business.
But bad news for European exporters. I expect we will see political pressure for EU rate cuts when there firms start to feel the pressure. Maybe we will see a lot of currency devaluations in the West.

Dakkon

7,833 posts

283 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Mikey G said:
Its a government conspiracy i tell you, when it gets to around 1-1 they will anounce it is now time to adopt the Euro as we are now on an equal footing with the rest of them.....
Exactly, I have heard this theory as well.

ATG

23,811 posts

302 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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mickken said:
Is it a conspiricy to break the £ untill we have no option but to enter the great Euro con.
No it isn't. HTH wink

kiwisr

9,335 posts

237 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Certainly starting to look more attractive to contract over on the continent.



Timmy33

13,014 posts

228 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Fittster said:
ATG said:
Yes, it makes holidays more expensive, but it's good news for UK business.
But bad news for European exporters. I expect we will see political pressure for EU rate cuts when there firms start to feel the pressure. Maybe we will see a lot of currency devaluations in the West.
Europe is focusing on growing exports to China, India, and South East Asia in general, as well as keeping inflation low in it's domestic market.

Yes the £/euro matters to their exporters, but don't expect the ECB to panic about rate cuts because of exports to the UK, or even US.

As for political pressures, I'm rather more inclined to think that covergence of UK and European FX rates and interest rates, ahead of bringing the £ into the euro zone is more of political interest to Brussels, than short term export fluctuations.

Edited by Timmy33 on Friday 11th April 11:41

thekirbyfake

6,232 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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ATG said:
good news for UK business.
Not necessarily. We import a heck of a lot of raw materials into the UK from (or via) eurozones and therefore the costs have risen dramatically in the past 6mths.

Nicol@

3,851 posts

266 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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thekirbyfake said:
ATG said:
good news for UK business.
Not necessarily. We import a heck of a lot of raw materials into the UK from (or via) eurozones and therefore the costs have risen dramatically in the past 6mths.
I agree, it is having a bad effect on many companies in the UK.

(I think the original quote meant that it is good for UK tourist industry)

V8OWNER

Original Poster:

602 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Im just gutted because I have a euro mortgage...

Irish

3,991 posts

269 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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V8OWNER said:
Im just gutted because I have a euro mortgage...
I have a euro mortgage and a sterling mortgage so not net change.