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mrmaggit

10,146 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Malmsteen is a pompous, egotistical waste of space.

Hence the review by Sounds (I think it was).

Malmsteen. You had your chance, you blew it. You're crap. off.

Very succinct.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Technically she's marvellous, of course.

I cannot imagine a less appealling choice of composition to play as a demonstration of her virtuoso capabilities, though...

...and boy does she need to get rid of the hairdo. Underneath it there's a perfectly fine looking lady waiting to get out. Whilst this is irrelevant to her magnificent technical ability it would make watching her play a good deal more pleasant and, no doubt, do her career some good.

An interesting find, Gaz. Do you play yourself?

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I'll watch th v id later but JB is awesome! I saw her live in around '94 & her 2 handed tapping was breathtaking.

She seems pretty cool in her interviews, [geek] apparently she uses her producers thumb to damp the guitar strings when recording [/geek]

mattley

3,039 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I saw Jenny when she did the Micheal Jackson gig at MK bowl, impressive indeed. Though very technical I do find her stuff a little souless, she is undoubtably very good.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Gazboy said:
If you asked a guitar player to name their all time top ten players, Vai, Satriani & Malmsteen would probably be in that list.


Vai and Satriani display a fine grasp of melodic light and shade. Both their works include breathtaking displays of subtlety - as well as raucous shredding!

Would you believe I'm unfamiliar with Malmsteen - despite having heard so much about him. His stuff has never appealed so I've only heard "samples" as it were.

My top ten list would definitly contain those two - but there would a few surprises along the way. Little matches, for example, Alex Lifeson's work in "La Villa Strangiato" and yet few would rate him, I think.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Gazboy said:
Been playing for about 20 years- on and off.

25 years for me - since I was fifteen. Too old, really, to ever actually be any good at it. I did used to play semi-pro, though, until I found that Computer Programming was a significantly more lucrative and reliable source of income for me.

Would have loved to have gone pro. Couldn't face the life, though, given that so very, very few actually get rich!

Gazboy said:
Immense stage fright prevents me from making a career from playing.

What a shame! You've never thought of getting help to get over that? Not drugs...hypnosis etc?

There is nothing, but nothing, cooler than staring out at the crowd, hitting the first few chords of something they know and getting a huge cheer. I'd love to do that again one time. For old time's sake...

tvrolet

4,765 posts

313 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I saw her with Michael Jackson at Glasgow Green some years back

Was no fan of wacko, but I guessed the concert would at least be fairly spectacular, and it certainly was. Didn't know who she was at the time, but playing (and hairdo) were certainly memorable.

motco

17,656 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Someone posted a link to Rodrigo y Gabriela on here a while ago. I know nothing of them except that I downloaded some stuff of theirs and it is phenomenal - to my taste at least. Try this Rodrigo y Gabriela BTW, Gabriela is female

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Don said:


Gazboy said:
Immense stage fright prevents me from making a career from playing.

What a shame! You've never thought of getting help to get over that? Not drugs...hypnosis etc?

There is nothing, but nothing, cooler than staring out at the crowd, hitting the first few chords of something they know and getting a huge cheer. I'd love to do that again one time. For old time's sake...


I look back at my gigging days with immense fondness & have great memories. I used to make plenty of money as a yoof & student playing with cover bands but am not particulary creative so gave it up. My younger bro is having a stab at going pro with his band - www.burnonfire.com but I fear the audience for their style of music is a bit limited.

It's a real shame you get the stage fright Gaz, the rush is like nothing legal or illegal I have ever tried.


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bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Don said:

My top ten list would definitly contain those two - but there would a few surprises along the way. Little matches, for example, Alex Lifeson's work in "La Villa Strangiato" and yet few would rate him, I think.


I never rated Lifeson until I tried playing soem of his stuff. His timing & phrasing are fantastic - far harder to grasp IMO than widdly stuff or sweeping.

neil.b

6,546 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Know the feeling Gazboy. Been playing on and off for over 20 years (25 if you go back to when I first started to learn) but I'm no "performer" at all. Used to play local pubs when we had a bit of a Jam tribute band going when I was about 16 but that's about the extent of my stage experience.

The other problem i have is, I hear a song and decide to work it out, then when I've got the main idea, I'll generally give up on it. As a consequence, I have very few popular songs in my "repertoire".

Malmsteen is awful. His contribution to Little Wing on one of the G3 concerts was one of the most embarassing things I've seen a proper guitarist play. Total lack of empathy for the song, more interested in widdling away like a maniac.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Jennifer Batten? Guitar playing is ok I spose... but what a cool hair cut.
Nils Lofgren... now there's a geetarr player


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stig

11,823 posts

315 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Handy at two handed, but what's her pick technique like? It's pretty easy to sound uber fast and technical two handed, but a good deal harder when you'r having to pick for it.

I'd add Nuno Bettencourt to the technically brilliant/fine melodic guitar god list.

Depressed now as I just realised that I hardly sweep a pick at all these days

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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stig said:
Handy at two handed, but what's her pick technique like? It's pretty easy to sound uber fast and technical two handed, but a good deal harder when you'r having to pick for it.

I'd add Nuno Bettencourt to the technically brilliant/fine melodic guitar god list.

Depressed now as I just realised that I hardly sweep a pick at all these days

She's not too shabby playing standard style either. I think her tapping was her sig, a bit like Yngwies fretw*nkery, Satriani's melodies & Vai's general wtf is he doing to get that noise type stuff.

I used to love Nuno as a kid - play with me used to be one of my favourite guitar passages

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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For me a good guitarist is one that conveys emotion as well as having technical skill.

Page, Rhandy Rhoads, Hendrix etc, even Vai, Satch is excelent.

Malmsteen may be fast, may be technicaly good but its emotionless mechanical noise.

zaktoo

1,401 posts

271 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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that. She played an MJ gig? She's quite obviously no Jimi Hendrix reincarnation then.

Jay GTi

1,026 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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stig said:
Handy at two handed, but what's her pick technique like? It's pretty easy to sound uber fast and technical two handed, but a good deal harder when you'r having to pick for it.

I'd add Nuno Bettencourt to the technically brilliant/fine melodic guitar god list.



I would as well and his version of Flight of the Bumblebee is far, far superior, which his picks instead of taps.

JB is good, but tapping to me has always been a lazy way to sound fast. Yes some of it is technically quite difficult (Steve Vai's two-handed chord tapping is incredible to watch live) but it's so 80's and I wish Eddie Van Halen had never popularised the sodding technique...

As for Malmsteen, I can't stand his constant widdling either, he uses the same scales over and over again and his solos are always the same, but... god damn you have to admire his speed and technique...

Guitarists on my 'top shredder' list (no order except Satch, who is definitely my no.1)
Joe Satriani
Steve Vai
Nuno Bettencourt
Marty Friedman
Paul Gilbert
John Petrucci

celticpilgrim

1,965 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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caught a bit of the 50th anniversary stratocaster concert last night on Sky. Caught Albert Lee playing 'country boy' his combination of pick and finger picking were bloody good, given the tempo of the song. I'd heard of him, but nevere seen him play.

Therre's been some fine players mentioned. May I add Gary Moore to the list.

Like a few here, I'd have loved to play music for a living, didn't have the bottle. A few of my mates did, one played keyboards for Jacko and Billy ocean. (and when we were at school I was better than him, but he went for it, so good luck to him)

These days, I wouldn't mind just jamming for fun.....

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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I'd like to add Paul Kossoff to the list, please. Never one to play 50 notes if one would do. But the emotion that young lad could put into that note. His finger vibrato has seldom been matched, IMHO.

gbbird

5,197 posts

275 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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I've played guitar for over 20 years now, and used to be in several bands. I have always been into guitar based rock/heavy music, and although i appreciate a good technical guitar player, to be honest people like Satriani and YM just bored me. When i was learning and writing songs a few guitarists of note were my influences - Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page and Dave Mustaine - both excellent players who could write a good song as well as go for it with the solos if they wanted.

>> Edited by gbbird on Wednesday 25th January 11:06