Which entry to mid level HDTV for Xbox360 please?
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Lets just say one has up to £500 for the above. Plenty of space for a non plasma type tv and don't realy need more than 28" widescreen. Surround sound would be nice though or at least compatable with for a later date to get the most out of my TV budget.
What are your suggestions please
What are your suggestions please
sorry mods can you move if required please
Not sure you can get HD CRT's so it will probably have to be an LCD.
Panasonic's TX-26LXD52 is available on-line for about £770
www.panasonic.co.uk/lcd-tv/tx26lxd52/index.htm
Panasonic's TX-26LXD52 is available on-line for about £770
www.panasonic.co.uk/lcd-tv/tx26lxd52/index.htm
B17NNS said:
Not sure you can get HD CRT's so it will probably have to be an LCD.
Panasonic's TX-26LXD52 is available on-line for about £770
www.panasonic.co.uk/lcd-tv/tx26lxd52/index.htm
pretty sure i've seen crt hdtv's.....
It is possible to get HD on a CRT. This is 32" and slightly out of your budget but I think there is a 28" version
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00084YFMM/qid=1127828686/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-9532927-0296623
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00084YFMM/qid=1127828686/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-9532927-0296623
In fact here is the 28" version:
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00084YFMC/qid=1137682682/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-9532927-0296623
I have the 32" version, picture quality is excellent although I haven't got a proper HD source. If you put the split screen teletext on it displays the whole original picture in HD next to the text and you can get an idea how good it looks though.
Only thing is the refresh rate is 75hz at normal res and 37.5hz at HD (I think), which may look a bit flickery if you're sensitive to that sort of thing.
>> Edited by DieselJohn on Thursday 19th January 15:01
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00084YFMC/qid=1137682682/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-9532927-0296623
I have the 32" version, picture quality is excellent although I haven't got a proper HD source. If you put the split screen teletext on it displays the whole original picture in HD next to the text and you can get an idea how good it looks though.
Only thing is the refresh rate is 75hz at normal res and 37.5hz at HD (I think), which may look a bit flickery if you're sensitive to that sort of thing.
>> Edited by DieselJohn on Thursday 19th January 15:01
Plotloss said:
It is possible to display a HD signal on a CRT however, by the time HD really takes off in the UK the CRT market will be all but dead...
The CRT market seems to be all but dead already but I really don't see why. Picture quality is still the best and for most people who don't hang it on the wall you don't actually save any space going flat, you just end up with a foot of fresh air behind the screen. Even if you do hang it on the wall you need to find somewhere to put the DVD player etc so still haven;t really saved much on the footprint.
OK if you want >32" ish CRT is no good but how many people really want a TV that size?
It's quite a lot to do with having the latest 'must have' gadget IMHO.
stig said:
Samsung LE26R14DB for teh w1n
OK, what are the important factors one should be looking at when buying?, specs if you like. Also apparently there is some confusion over the wording ie, HD ready and something else ( can't remember what though )
So i need a min of this and a max of that type affair.
I bought one of these
www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=18783
They are now end of line as the smallest Dell do now is 32" I think. Great telly for the price.
www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=18783
They are now end of line as the smallest Dell do now is 32" I think. Great telly for the price.
Average size of a UK telly is 29" averaged out, believe it or not.
I too am somewhat amazed but I put it down to two things.
1) Flat panel marketing, everyone wants the TV in a picture frame 'dream'
2) Floorspace, lets face it, in most living rooms, it gives you an extra chair space...
I too am somewhat amazed but I put it down to two things.
1) Flat panel marketing, everyone wants the TV in a picture frame 'dream'
2) Floorspace, lets face it, in most living rooms, it gives you an extra chair space...
bilko2 said:
Samsung LE26R14DB for teh w1n
OK, what are the important factors one should be looking at when buying?, specs if you like. Also apparently there is some confusion over the wording ie, HD ready and something else ( can't remember what though )
So i need a min of this and a max of that type affair.
Sorry - english version.
I looked at quite a few HD TVs (there are differences between 'true' HD and those that can just display a component signal). The samsung supports a resolution of 1366 x 720 which is 'true' HD as I understand it. It also has a built in freeview digital decoder, a shedload of inputs and is well packaged and aesthetically pleasing.
They do a 23" (but no freeview?), a 26" and a 32" - all very nice and at a reasonable cost if you shop around.
I've got an LE26R51BD on order (which is slightly updated machine).
DieselJohn said:
2) Floorspace, lets face it, in most living rooms, it gives you an extra chair space...
Only if you hang it on the wall though. I have seen so many sitting on the front of a normal TV stand with a load of fresh air behind the screen.
True in that scenario but then theres no helping the stupid and they appear to have fallen for the 'dream'...
Regarding HDTV:
The simple explanation of Digital TV
Digital TV describes the current crop of higher scan frequency sets. The designation is bestowed on sets that are able to display progressive signals or include a line doubler to convert the incoming viewable NTSC signal at 480i (interlaced) to 480p (progressive). Digital TV can be 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio. Ultimately, it is the ability to display the high resolution image defined by the ATSC standards of 1080i or 720p that is the solid foundation of Digital TV.
HDTV or HD-Ready
During the course of shopping for a digital television, the labels HDTV and HD-Ready maybe of some confusion to the consumer. This HDTV designation signifies that the set has an internal ATSC tuner/decoder, as well as meeting the widescreen specifications often required to be considered a true HDTV. The sets will meet the requirement to display in 1080i/720p, although it is often the former only. Very few digital TVs on the market will display in native 720p. The lack of an ATSC tuner/decoder is not necessarily a negative as many set-top decoders are now available with more features than those included in the integrated HDTV. The separate purchase of a HD-Ready TV and the external set-top-box often provides flexibility to the consumer to choose one that offers added features such as satellite receiver and the proper output signal. Most HD-Ready sets will include a high-band component (Y-Pb-Pr) DTV input, although few on the market also offers RGB for this purpose. There have been much debate between manufacturers as to the aspect ratio specifications of the HDTV designation, and it is now recognized that a true HD set will provide widescreen 16:9 aspect screen.
The Definition argument
The most common Digital TV's today are based on the Cathode Ray Tube technology. This is true with both Direct View and Rear Projection sets. Some purists will argue that the many of today's sets should not be defined as HDTV because the CRT's used cannot define all of the picture elements (pixels) required to display 1920x1080 resolution. While this is true for most with the exception of 9" CRT based sets, this specification alone should not be the the reason to shun these sets. While it is true that higher pixel count provides better picture on larger sets, there are variety of smaller TVs that do not require the full 1080 lines to provide incredible picture quality. These high-fidelity TV's often cost quite a bit more than the sets that use the standard 7" CRT or direct view sets. If the digital TV that you plan to purchase is bigger than 55", a comparison to a 9" CRT based TV before purchase is highly recommended.
In other words:
1080i = 1920 x 1080 pixels (16:9 ratio)
720p = 1280 x 720 pixels (16:9 ratio)
The simple explanation of Digital TV
Digital TV describes the current crop of higher scan frequency sets. The designation is bestowed on sets that are able to display progressive signals or include a line doubler to convert the incoming viewable NTSC signal at 480i (interlaced) to 480p (progressive). Digital TV can be 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio. Ultimately, it is the ability to display the high resolution image defined by the ATSC standards of 1080i or 720p that is the solid foundation of Digital TV.
HDTV or HD-Ready
During the course of shopping for a digital television, the labels HDTV and HD-Ready maybe of some confusion to the consumer. This HDTV designation signifies that the set has an internal ATSC tuner/decoder, as well as meeting the widescreen specifications often required to be considered a true HDTV. The sets will meet the requirement to display in 1080i/720p, although it is often the former only. Very few digital TVs on the market will display in native 720p. The lack of an ATSC tuner/decoder is not necessarily a negative as many set-top decoders are now available with more features than those included in the integrated HDTV. The separate purchase of a HD-Ready TV and the external set-top-box often provides flexibility to the consumer to choose one that offers added features such as satellite receiver and the proper output signal. Most HD-Ready sets will include a high-band component (Y-Pb-Pr) DTV input, although few on the market also offers RGB for this purpose. There have been much debate between manufacturers as to the aspect ratio specifications of the HDTV designation, and it is now recognized that a true HD set will provide widescreen 16:9 aspect screen.
The Definition argument
The most common Digital TV's today are based on the Cathode Ray Tube technology. This is true with both Direct View and Rear Projection sets. Some purists will argue that the many of today's sets should not be defined as HDTV because the CRT's used cannot define all of the picture elements (pixels) required to display 1920x1080 resolution. While this is true for most with the exception of 9" CRT based sets, this specification alone should not be the the reason to shun these sets. While it is true that higher pixel count provides better picture on larger sets, there are variety of smaller TVs that do not require the full 1080 lines to provide incredible picture quality. These high-fidelity TV's often cost quite a bit more than the sets that use the standard 7" CRT or direct view sets. If the digital TV that you plan to purchase is bigger than 55", a comparison to a 9" CRT based TV before purchase is highly recommended.
In other words:
1080i = 1920 x 1080 pixels (16:9 ratio)
720p = 1280 x 720 pixels (16:9 ratio)
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