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Anyone like to guess what the missing words to the letter (on of very many) sent to me are?
Dear Mr Police State
You are hereby notified that we have authorised officers from our enforcement division to visit your home and interview you under caution, as our records show there is still no ***** at this address and as yet we have received no response to previous communications from you.
Your statement will be taken in compliance with the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984(*), and it is the first step in our action to prosecute if we find evidence that you ***** without a *****
I feel it is my duty to inform you that if found guilty, you could receive a maximum fine of ****, and your name will be added to our National Enforcement Database. We take this offence very seriously and last month alone we prosecuted 1405 people.
To avoid an appearance in court before a magistrate I would strongly advise you to call 0870 240 3210 or
If you are not the individual named above, please do not ignore this letter; this address still requires a ***** if you are using a *****.
Yours Sincerely
John Hales
***** Enforcement Manager
(*) In Scotland, interviews and cautions are made in line with Scottish criminal law.
Dear Mr Police State
You are hereby notified that we have authorised officers from our enforcement division to visit your home and interview you under caution, as our records show there is still no ***** at this address and as yet we have received no response to previous communications from you.
Your statement will be taken in compliance with the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984(*), and it is the first step in our action to prosecute if we find evidence that you ***** without a *****
I feel it is my duty to inform you that if found guilty, you could receive a maximum fine of ****, and your name will be added to our National Enforcement Database. We take this offence very seriously and last month alone we prosecuted 1405 people.
To avoid an appearance in court before a magistrate I would strongly advise you to call 0870 240 3210 or
If you are not the individual named above, please do not ignore this letter; this address still requires a ***** if you are using a *****.
Yours Sincerely
John Hales
***** Enforcement Manager
(*) In Scotland, interviews and cautions are made in line with Scottish criminal law.
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A911DOM said:
Got a work colleague here whos had the 'visit' before because they simply cannot believe that he doesnt have a tele...
Admittedly its quite unusual nowadays but each to their own hey!
Happened to me once, invited them in, showed them the corner of the room where the telly wasn't, they apologised for the inconvenience and went away. I went upstairs and turned on the box.
Einion Yrth said:
Got a work colleague here whos had the 'visit' before because they simply cannot believe that he doesnt have a tele...
Admittedly its quite unusual nowadays but each to their own hey!
Happened to me once, invited them in, showed them the corner of the room where the telly wasn't, they apologised for the inconvenience and went away. I went upstairs and turned on the box.
That's because they don't have the powers of 'Search and Sieze'; yet...
Just wait till the day, you will only be able to access the governent controlled 'Internet' if you tap in or scan/read your ID card, and their big computers cross reference against all the posts where you happen to mention that great program on TV last night.
Think i'm kidding?, we ain't seen nothing yet...
The past is dead, the future is DATA.
TV liscense w*nkers, I was torturing the feckers for a couple of years....I actually had no TV at the time, only have one now because the Mrs likes to watch crap.
If you read the letters carefully they are worded to make it sound like you have already committed a crime when you are not/ have not.
If you read the letters carefully they are worded to make it sound like you have already committed a crime when you are not/ have not.
I just had some of these for the place I just moved into. There was a whole stack of increasingly threatening ones. Pretty horrible when you consider the addressee they were threatening died a year ago. The thing I don't like is that you're automatically treated like a criminal - there's no concept that you might not have a tele.
I tried to get the gits round while the place looked like a building site, but unfortunately they didn't come
I was all set to rip the p!ss out of them as well
I tried to get the gits round while the place looked like a building site, but unfortunately they didn't come
I was all set to rip the p!ss out of them as well kerfuffle said:
I just had some of these for the place I just moved into. There was a whole stack of increasingly threatening ones. Pretty horrible when you consider the addressee they were threatening died a year ago. The thing I don't like is that you're automatically treated like a criminal - there's no concept that you might not have a tele.
I tried to get the gits round while the place looked like a building site, but unfortunately they didn't come
They won't come, they just send more and more letters. Then eventually they stop. I was a bit dissapointed.
I think you'll find that were it a proper crimminal offence then they'd actually have to PROVE that you were using the TV to receive their cr@p. Since it is most likely to be a civil action in County court they only have to show that there was a reasonable likelihood that you were doing so, for example, by owning a TV set. Because if you read it carefully, it's not an offence to own a TV (or other receiving device), merely an offence to use it.
My Gran has never had a tv, yet year after year they came round to see her about the fact she didn't have a licence, she even got some guy out to take the unused aerial off the roof and they still wouldn't leave her alone, she now qualifies for a free licence, and still won't get one on principal.
My ex died last year, and he got a few demands for a licence, even though the solicitor had told them the facts.
And when I moved into my previous house, I had only been there a couple of days, lukilly I had the foresight to sort the licence out day 3 in the house, and lo and be hold that evening some fat git come round as his records showed no licence for the house, I told him it had been sorted and to check with the office, the cheeky git even wanted to come in and use my phone to do it! no chance, made him stand on the doorstep and use his mobile.
Arn't the detection vans supposed to be able to tell who is receiving a signal? rather than them relying on a database that shows a lack of licence! T*sspots!
My ex died last year, and he got a few demands for a licence, even though the solicitor had told them the facts.
And when I moved into my previous house, I had only been there a couple of days, lukilly I had the foresight to sort the licence out day 3 in the house, and lo and be hold that evening some fat git come round as his records showed no licence for the house, I told him it had been sorted and to check with the office, the cheeky git even wanted to come in and use my phone to do it! no chance, made him stand on the doorstep and use his mobile.
Arn't the detection vans supposed to be able to tell who is receiving a signal? rather than them relying on a database that shows a lack of licence! T*sspots!
My mum is certified blind - get a £10 discount of a TV license.... thats nice of them isnt it? A whole £10? What, is the picture so un-important?
Scumbags.....
And they wouldnt give her the discount last year - claimed that she needed to prove it to them. Not quite sure how you do that - but even the disabled parking badge certificate didnt work. Needed a letter for her GP - which is quite bizzare!
Scumbags, dont you know....
Scumbags.....
And they wouldnt give her the discount last year - claimed that she needed to prove it to them. Not quite sure how you do that - but even the disabled parking badge certificate didnt work. Needed a letter for her GP - which is quite bizzare!
Scumbags, dont you know....
speedchick said:
Arn't the detection vans supposed to be able to tell who is receiving a signal? rather than them relying on a database that shows a lack of licence! T*sspots!
The 'detection vans' have a guy peering out of them to see if they can spot the tell tale 'flickering light' of a tv through your curtains after dark. They cannot detect electronically if you have a tv on.
timmy30 said:
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Arn't the detection vans supposed to be able to tell who is receiving a signal? rather than them relying on a database that shows a lack of licence! T*sspots!
IMO the detection vans are/ always were BS to scare the natives.
I used to work with a guy whose previous job had been at the factory making the detection equipment (Grundig in Gosport did them) the "vans" are so 1970's the actual bit of kit is a small handheld unit about the size of a carton of fag, it detects the radiated emissions from a CRT and not only can it tell which house but which room and even which channel you are watching. Of course it's no good what so ever on flat screens, but they may well have developed something that can do these as this was several years ago.
police state said:
Anyone like to guess what the missing words to the letter (on of very many) sent to me are?
Dear Mr Police State
You are hereby notified that we have authorised officers from our enforcement division to visit your home and interview you under caution, as our records show there is still no ***** at this address and as yet we have received no response to previous communications from you.
Your statement will be taken in compliance with the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984(*), and it is the first step in our action to prosecute if we find evidence that you ***** without a *****
I feel it is my duty to inform you that if found guilty, you could receive a maximum fine of ****, and your name will be added to our National Enforcement Database. We take this offence very seriously and last month alone we prosecuted 1405 people.
To avoid an appearance in court before a magistrate I would strongly advise you to call 0870 240 3210 or
If you are not the individual named above, please do not ignore this letter; this address still requires a ***** if you are using a *****.
Yours Sincerely
John Hales
***** Enforcement Manager
(*) In Scotland, interviews and cautions are made in line with Scottish criminal law.
Police state
Have you actually been caught receiving a TV signal without a licence?
It is not an offence to own a TV without a licence, only to watch TV programmes via a signal.
Yep. Since tha vans became useless they just chase every single address on their database that doesn't have a licence...on the assumption that you have a TV.
Sadly I *do* have a TV.
Personally I think the licence fee should be abolished. Its an anachronism. Everyone should simply pay £40 a year PIST (Public Information Services Tax)
and it should be collected like NI through payroll. Then it doesn't matter what BBC services you use (Radio, Website, Podcast, Programme Download, Broadcast) you've paid for it.
And all the government workers in enforcement can be made redundant saving us a fortune in B-ship Civil Servants.
Sadly I *do* have a TV.
Personally I think the licence fee should be abolished. Its an anachronism. Everyone should simply pay £40 a year PIST (Public Information Services Tax)
and it should be collected like NI through payroll. Then it doesn't matter what BBC services you use (Radio, Website, Podcast, Programme Download, Broadcast) you've paid for it. And all the government workers in enforcement can be made redundant saving us a fortune in B-ship Civil Servants.
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