Ming the Merciless
Discussion
So Sir Menzies Campbell is known as "Ming" because the correct pronunciation of his forename is "Mingis" (as demonstrated regularly on the BBC News).
How does that work then? I struggle to get from "Menzies" to "Mingis", unless it is some obscure tradition of the Sweaties.
More to the point, how is he ever going to be considered as a credible leader if no-one can say his name? Ah yes, I see - it doesn't really matter since it's only the Lib Dems .....
How does that work then? I struggle to get from "Menzies" to "Mingis", unless it is some obscure tradition of the Sweaties.
More to the point, how is he ever going to be considered as a credible leader if no-one can say his name? Ah yes, I see - it doesn't really matter since it's only the Lib Dems .....
406tm said:
How do you get from Magdalene College to Mawdlin College then?
College Website said:
One of the questions we are asked most commonly is about the pronunciation of the name of the College! Though nowadays spelt in the continental way, 'Magdalene', the College name is customarily pronounce 'Maudlyn'.
The College at its refoundation by Lord Audley in 1542, was dedicated to St Mary Magdalene. The choice of the name of Mary Magdalene appears to have had a touch of vanity. In many early documents, the name is clearly spelt as pronounced: 'Maudleyn', containing within it the name of Audley himself! The final 'e' on Magdalene was an attempt, with the advent of the postal service in the mid nineteenth-century, to distinguish us from our sister College in another university.
I love the refusal to acknowledge the Oxford college of a similar name ....
los angeles said:
Americans having no "burghs," or any word ending in "gh,"
I did before I posted, I got a page full of it spelled Pittsburgh.like this one and this one
los angeles said:
They pronounce them all as "Pittsburg," and that's how the main city is actually spelled.
But not the University or the football team? Pull the other one it's got bells on.
ETA
or the baseball team, or the local newspapers, or the tourist information site, or the what's on in Pittsburgh site. On the whole I put it to you L.A. that you're talking bollox.
>> Edited by Einion Yrth on Tuesday 10th January 09:39
Einion Yrth said:
They pronounce them all as "Pittsburg," and that's how the main city is actually spelled.
But not the University or the football team? Pull the other one it's got bells on.
ETA
or the baseball team, or the local newspapers, or the tourist information site, or the what's on in Pittsburgh site. On the whole I put it to you L.A. that you're talking bollox.
>> Edited by Einion Yrth on Tuesday 10th January 09:39
I think LA is getting Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (the real one) mixed up with Pittsburg, CA.
los angeles said:
Youi mean they go out of their way to pronounce the city as "Pittsburg," but the team as "Pitts-borough?"
No of course they don't. They pronounce it 'Pittsburg' in all cases - however you have belatedly inroduced the pronunciation as the most important element to sidestep the fact that your original statement that Americans have no placenames ening in 'gh' is comprehensively wrong. Why don't you just admit you cocked up?
Einion Yrth said:
Youi mean they go out of their way to pronounce the city as "Pittsburg," but the team as "Pitts-borough?"
No of course they don't. They pronounce it 'Pittsburg' in all cases - however you have belatedly inroduced the pronunciation as the most important element to sidestep the fact that your original statement that Americans have no placenames ening in 'gh' is comprehensively wrong. Why don't you just admit you cocked up?
Because he's a c
t? Ask him to send you one of his scripts.
The BBC explains all
And for unrepentant:
Now Dalziel. Discuss.
BBC Website said:
Blame the "yogh", a letter in old English and Scots which has no exact equivalent today.
Pronounced "yog", it used to be written a bit like the old copperplate-style "z" with a tail, which helps explain the discrepancy between the spelling of Menzies and the pronunciation.
The rise of printing in the 16th Century coincided with the decline of the yogh, and so it tended to be rendered in print as a "z", and pronounced as such.
And for unrepentant:
BBC Website then said:
Those south of the border might be surprised to know that the newsagent chain John Menzies takes the old pronunciation, and so should be John Mingis.
Now Dalziel. Discuss.
Any sort of back to the original question
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4595228.stm
Doh.
Beaten to it...
>> Edited by pulsatingstar on Tuesday 10th January 11:45
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4595228.stm
Doh.
Beaten to it...
>> Edited by pulsatingstar on Tuesday 10th January 11:45
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