aid for buncefield
Discussion
apache said:
Am I alone in feeling a tad disgusted at the lack of government assistance there is for this? we seem to be able to throw millions at any international disaster but when it comes to the peasants............
I really, really despise this bunch of money grabbing incompetants
IMHO the oil company should foot the bill, its not as though they can't afford it...
Oil company and insurance should cover most..... just don't expect any help from phony tonies cronies!!!!
BUT did anyone notice yesterday when ChiefpikeyC
T fatty2jags was doing his usual lying and useless waffle, how much he REALLY looked like Jabba the Hutt??? complete with droopy eyelids everything, god he's and ugly barstard!!!
BUT did anyone notice yesterday when ChiefpikeyC
T fatty2jags was doing his usual lying and useless waffle, how much he REALLY looked like Jabba the Hutt??? complete with droopy eyelids everything, god he's and ugly barstard!!!I don't see why the British TAXPAYER should be helping out large multi-nationals (who aren't exactly short of a bob or too) such as Bull, Fujica, Shell, Texaco, Total, BP etc etc.
Maybe some of the smaller businesses affected could do with some help but any sensible business will have taken out adequate insurance to cover such eventualities.
Maybe some of the smaller businesses affected could do with some help but any sensible business will have taken out adequate insurance to cover such eventualities.
Eric Mc said:
I don't see why the British TAXPAYER should be helping out large multi-nationals (who aren't exactly short of a bob or too) such as Bull, Fujica, Shell, Texaco, Total, BP etc etc.
Maybe some of the smaller businesses affected could do with some help but any sensible business will have taken out adequate insurance to cover such eventualities.
For someone who's husbands business was burnt out a couple of years ago, let me tell you that having adequate insurance and getting them to pay out are two entirely different matters. It took months for his insurers to cough up. He was lucky, but for many of these small businesses I fear any pay out will come far too late. Money rather than bureaucrasy is whats needed now.
Eric Mc said:
I don't see why the British TAXPAYER should be helping out large multi-nationals (who aren't exactly short of a bob or too) such as Bull, Fujica, Shell, Texaco, Total, BP etc etc.
Maybe some of the smaller businesses affected could do with some help but any sensible business will have taken out adequate insurance to cover such eventualities.
I was talking about the people whose homes have been destroyed as well as the small businesses. As LT says, the insurance may or may not come through but their should be an interim disaster fund to help these people now. We manage to send the British TAXPAYERs money all over the world at the drop of a hat. I just find it very telling that our government turn a blind eye to domestic issues.
Britain, like most civilised countries, has a government Foreign Aid Budget. Do you begrudge the money that goes abroad? As it is, private charities donate FAR more money to foreign causes than any government funds.
Maybe the people in and around Buncefield should start up a "Buncefield Aid" scheme to enable folk to make private donations. I still think businesses have to ensure that they plan for such eventualities rather than rely on the state yto help them out. After all, the way most people talk on this forum is that they seem to OPPOSE state intervention. Maybe it's a case of "I am in agreement with some state intervention but not all". The problem for governments is trying to decide in what circumstances and when they should hand out money which, after all, is not theirs, but yours and mine.
There might be a case for givernment aid for domestic home owners affected by the blast. How many private homes were actually destroyed or severly damaged? I haven't seen any numbers in the press regarding this. Most of the reports have concentrated on the effects the explosion had on businesses on the trading estate.
Maybe the people in and around Buncefield should start up a "Buncefield Aid" scheme to enable folk to make private donations. I still think businesses have to ensure that they plan for such eventualities rather than rely on the state yto help them out. After all, the way most people talk on this forum is that they seem to OPPOSE state intervention. Maybe it's a case of "I am in agreement with some state intervention but not all". The problem for governments is trying to decide in what circumstances and when they should hand out money which, after all, is not theirs, but yours and mine.
There might be a case for givernment aid for domestic home owners affected by the blast. How many private homes were actually destroyed or severly damaged? I haven't seen any numbers in the press regarding this. Most of the reports have concentrated on the effects the explosion had on businesses on the trading estate.
Eric Mc said:
Do you begrudge the money that goes abroad? As it is, private charities donate FAR more money to foreign causes than any government funds.
Of course I don't, you judge me too harshly again. We have had some major disasters here and some people have had their lives destroyed, when this happens to other countries we have systems in place to ensure funds reach them quickly. I think this should have been in place for the UK. I agree about the charities, where are they now?
I am firmly in the "Why shoukd the Government be throwing money at this" camp.
It should be up to the insurance companies to sort out. Those whose houses have been destroyed will be claiming off their insurance who in turn will claim off the petrol companies. As it is fairly clear who is to blame I fail to see why there should be any delay in the householders insurance paying out. Those who were uninsured will have a problem, and could face a delay, but thats their choice from being uninsured.
If there is a problem then the Government should be pressing the Insurance companies to sort it. Mind you presumably there is a problem with getting the relevant traders etc that are needed.
My guess is that money isn;t so important as tradesmen.
It should be up to the insurance companies to sort out. Those whose houses have been destroyed will be claiming off their insurance who in turn will claim off the petrol companies. As it is fairly clear who is to blame I fail to see why there should be any delay in the householders insurance paying out. Those who were uninsured will have a problem, and could face a delay, but thats their choice from being uninsured.
If there is a problem then the Government should be pressing the Insurance companies to sort it. Mind you presumably there is a problem with getting the relevant traders etc that are needed.
My guess is that money isn;t so important as tradesmen.
anonymous said:
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I hadn't thought this through to it's logical conclusion can you tell? but the Insurance assessors will be able to do that, they notify whatever quango the govt set up to administer it, the insurance companies do their best to find ways not to pay it and the resulting shortfall is what the govt actually lose out on. Instead of the victims fighting their corner the govt will
Not sure about the level of insurance the oil majors carry.
I think BP reviewed the geographical spread of its assets, the number of its assets and the value of insuring them all and decided it would be unlikely for there to be as many "incidents" for them to justify paying the premiums involved! I'm sure i read this somewhere following the events in the gulf of mexico.
Would an insurance company cover you for this kind of damage next to a fuel terminal? you will struggle to get flood insurance in an area prone to flooding (I belived they now have a complicated mapping system which bases your premium on hight above sea level etc) and if you do you would have to pay sweetly for it.
I think BP reviewed the geographical spread of its assets, the number of its assets and the value of insuring them all and decided it would be unlikely for there to be as many "incidents" for them to justify paying the premiums involved! I'm sure i read this somewhere following the events in the gulf of mexico.
Would an insurance company cover you for this kind of damage next to a fuel terminal? you will struggle to get flood insurance in an area prone to flooding (I belived they now have a complicated mapping system which bases your premium on hight above sea level etc) and if you do you would have to pay sweetly for it.
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