Stockwell policemen facing charges?

[andy mac]

Not wanting to drag up the whole issue of Stockwell again, the news media have jumoped on the story that the police officers may face charges. What are peeps opinions on this. from what i can see, there are 2 things to factor in.

1) If the officers were 'under orders' and were given permission to shoot to kill, etc, then they should not be charged. It is the responsibility of the upper echelons to take the fall.
2) If there were no orders regarding a shoot to kill policy, and permission was not given to carry out such an order, then the officers should be charged.

I have no idea which way the orders went, and it's a little stupid to leak this sort of thing, without finding out what orders the officers were acting under. However, i think the police will find it difficult to get armed response officers if charges are to be made.

This thread is not about Stockwell, but whats the charges should be re: the armed officers.

[vixpy1]

Speaking to a Met copper friend of mine the other day, he said he knows no one who actually knows who the people who carried out the shooting were.

[up-the-dubs]

vixpy1 said:

Speaking to a Met copper friend of mine the other day, he said he knows no one who actually knows who the people who carried out the shooting were.

Someone knows

Maybe they're just covering each others a$$, but someone knows.
I feel sorry for them, working on incorrect or misunderstood information, they thought they were doing what they were trained to do.

Edit: Don't think the Met should get away scott free. Either those giving the order or the officers involved. Allowing the Met to get away with it entirely is not an option.

>> Edited by up-the-dubs on Friday 9th December 18:03

[Einion Yrth]

Of course they should face charges, but if they were acting within their rules of engagement then they should be acquitted - carged does not of necessity mean guilty, that is what courts of law are supposed to establish.

[andy mac]

I think you know what I am on about. They may be facing charges, but it depends on what orders they were given as to what happens to them. IBut I think this will do great harm to any recruitment drive for armed officers, especially if they were acting under orders, and doing 'what they were told'.

[ZR1cliff]

Ive always thought that it shows three things,
1/ Complete loss of control on the officers part,based on you only need two shots to the head to kill someone,or make sure of it and not Eight.

2/The intelligence is/was suspect.

3/Who ever gave the decision to kill a suspect based on the poor intelligence lacked experience.

[HarryW]

vixpy1 said:

Speaking to a Met copper friend of mine the other day, he said he knows no one who actually knows who the people who carried out the shooting were.

Funny you should say that, mind it is second hand info whilst on hols recently. From old school friends still in London, box/sweeney types. There might be a good reason why no one in the Met knows them. Could just as easily be pub talk and even part of the bigger smoke screen going on though. Should be interesting when it comes out.

Back on topic; I'm really not too sure if it is the greater public interest to take this any further now, who ever it was fecked up big time and they know it. They will have to deal with it for the rest of their lives on a personal and professional basis, because make no mistake it will affect both. However given the British press beleif they have the god given right to put on Trial every aspect of society, regardless, I doubt it .

Harry

[ZR1cliff]

vixpy1 said:

Speaking to a Met copper friend of mine the other day, he said he knows no one who actually knows who the people who carried out the shooting were.

Or if they were even British?

[john75]

SO19 have a very hard job to do think the headlines might have read quite differently if he really had been a sucide bomber and the police stood by and let him blow up himself and those around him.

[leftie]

up-the-dubs said:

vixpy1 said: Speaking to a Met copper friend of mine the other day, he said he knows no one who actually knows who the people who carried out the shooting were. Someone knows Maybe they're just covering each others a$$, but someone knows. I feel sorry for them, working on incorrect or misunderstood information, they thought they were doing what they were trained to do. Edit: Don't think the Met should get away scott free. Either those giving the order or the officers involved. Allowing the Met to get away with it entirely is not an option. >> Edited by up-the-dubs on Friday 9th December 18:03

Is the suggestion that they were not police officers? That is why nobody knows them or is it just being played clsoe to the chest?

[Parrot of doom]

andy mac said:

1) If the officers were 'under orders' and were given permission to shoot to kill, etc, then they should not be charged. It is the responsibility of the upper echelons to take the fall.

Many a tragedy could have been averted if it wasn't for the 'I was only following orders' excuse.

[rich1231]

Jesus guys stop the fing conspiracy shite.