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silversun

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256 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Over the last few days I've been getting letters addressed to someone else at my address. Now, unless this person is very very small, he doesn't live in my flat. I opened a couple of these letters and found rejections from credit card companies. All of them. So someone is using my address to try and get credit cards.

How does this work? I have a locked mailbox so I can't quite understand how, if they were successful in getting a card, they would physically get possession of the card and subsequent statements.

I have phoned 2 of the credit card companies and let them know that it's a potential fraud, but is there anything else I should be doing?

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Google for CIFAS if you are concerned, and you may want to consider reporting the problem to the local BiB, to cover your bases in any future correspondence. Had a similar thing a year or so ago, with a lower aspiring criminal - they had requested a Catalog card, or similar, but havent heard anything since, and have been keeping a reasonable eye on things. You may want to do a credit search on yourself/ask for your records from Experian etc to find out whats going on..

silversun

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Cool, thanks. I've already applied for my Experian record, which I do every now and again anyway, so I'll see what comes up in that.

Witchfinder

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282 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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You shouldn't open mail that isn't addressed to you. Write "Return to sender, not known at this address" on the envelopes, and stick them in a letterbox.

silversun

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Monday 5th December 2005
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And given that I bought the flat brand new and have been the only occupant, there is no legitimate reason why post should arrive in anyone else's name.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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We had some woman applying for benefits using our address earlier this year. Then she got a summons for assaulting a bus driver. I opened the post and wrote to the relevant agencies to tell tehm this wa sa fraudulent claim and to the court to say that she did not live and had never lived at our address.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

314 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Maybe somebody thought they would be able to intercept mail to your address and then didn't get all of it?

silversun

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Monday 5th December 2005
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GreenV8S said:
Maybe somebody thought they would be able to intercept mail to your address and then didn't get all of it?


Not sure how. I've got a locking mailbox.

Axeman30

9,325 posts

257 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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silversun said:
GreenV8S said:
Maybe somebody thought they would be able to intercept mail to your address and then didn't get all of it?


Not sure how. I've got a locking mailbox.


Yes but they wouldn't have known that when they bought/found your address details, which probably explains why you're finding rejection letters, if you didn't have a locking mail box you'd be none the wiser.

rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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Not got time to google for the correct act, etc. but seem to remember that this is actually a criminal offence in itself - interfering with the post, and is considered a very serious offence.

silversun

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Axeman30 said:
Yes but they wouldn't have known that when they bought/found your address details, which probably explains why you're finding rejection letters, if you didn't have a locking mail box you'd be none the wiser.


Then it's a good job I opened the letters and can hopefully stop my credit rating being shafted by some chicken-footed thieving pissbucket, isn't it?

And for those that say opening others' post is illegal, aren't fraudulent credit card applications illegal too? Which of us is going to get arrested should anyone ever be caught?

R555SSH

5,006 posts

252 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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Whatchoo got against apes sucka?

>> Edited by R555SSH on Monday 5th December 15:04

rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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silversun said:

And for those that say opening others' post is illegal, aren't fraudulent credit card applications illegal too? Which of us is going to get arrested should anyone ever be caught?


Yep, they are. Yet another wonderful catch 22. At the end of the day you just have to make up your own mind as to what the best course of action is. I happen to have accidently opened things addressed to others but sent to my address as I thought it was my mail, I mean who elses could it have been if only I live there...

rude-boy

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263 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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What about an albatros?

morebeanz

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266 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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I think you will find that the offence is interfering with DELIVERY of the mail. If the mail has been delivered, though...

vixpy1

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294 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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morebeanz said:
I think you will find that the offence is interfering with DELIVERY of the mail. If the mail has been delivered, though...


Ah.... but when is mail delivered?

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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silversun said:
Axeman30 said:
Yes but they wouldn't have known that when they bought/found your address details, which probably explains why you're finding rejection letters, if you didn't have a locking mail box you'd be none the wiser.


Then it's a good job I opened the letters and can hopefully stop my credit rating being shafted by some chicken-footed thieving pissbucket, isn't it?

And for those that say opening others' post is illegal, aren't fraudulent credit card applications illegal too? Which of us is going to get arrested should anyone ever be caught?
You, because you've admitted an offence. You have no evidence of who commited the other crime, and with one in the bag already (you) do you really think plod will go after the real guilty parties? Nope, you're the easy kill.

Try it. Go down the nick with a fistful of opened letters addressed to someone else and see how much further than "I opened these letters addressed to someone else ..." you get before your collar gets felt.

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

333 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Lighten up people...

R555SSH

5,006 posts

252 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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PetrolTed said:
Lighten up people...


Hey its my metabolism. And I got big bones too. Mean old man.

zcacogp

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274 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Zod said:
We had some woman applying for benefits using our address earlier this year. Then she got a summons for assaulting a bus driver. I opened the post and wrote to the relevant agencies to tell tehm this wa sa fraudulent claim and to the court to say that she did not live and had never lived at our address.
I'm shocked (but not surprised) that they accepted that.

I mean, let's imagine you assualt a bus driver, and give your name and address when caught at the scene.

If getting off with it is as easy as writing back in a (possibly fictitous) name saying that you have never lived there then surely everyone would do it?

(Oh, hang on, maybe everyone is doing it ...)


Oli.