How do you go about leaving Britain?
Discussion
I'm sure a lot of people would love to know how to do this. If you feel anything like me, you feel like your very blood is being drained by a punitive and wasteful government. You feel that social decay is rife. You want out.
The question is "How?" If you're like me, you've got a mortgage, cars and kids. You'll need to know where to go, and you'll need a job, somewhere to live, etc...
Comments, advice and information would be gratefully accepted.
The question is "How?" If you're like me, you've got a mortgage, cars and kids. You'll need to know where to go, and you'll need a job, somewhere to live, etc...
Comments, advice and information would be gratefully accepted.
Witchfinder said:1. Fill in visa application forms and send away waiting for approval, then when approved:
I'm sure a lot of people would love to know how to do this. If you feel anything like me, you feel like your very blood is being drained by a punitive and wasteful government. You feel that social decay is rife. You want out.
The question is "How?" If you're like me, you've got a mortgage, cars and kids. You'll need to know where to go, and you'll need a job, somewhere to live, etc...
Comments, advice and information would be gratefully accepted.
2. Sell/pack everything you, don’t need/need (you can keep the wife and kids if you want but they are really a bit of a drag).
3. Purchase tickets to destination.
4. Find new job.
5. Purchase suitable accommodation in area of your liking and suitable automobile.
6. Enjoy!
No. 6 is something people often forget to do and end up feeling that perhaps what they did was a mistake. There is no formula to get it right first time, but often what you want becomes clear soon after. My first mistake was a massive one, I quickly realised that I didn’t come here to work/live in a city so I’m currently trying to re-locate to a rural area.
Any one can do it and often the hardest part is getting started, don’t get me wrong in that it’s a massive decision that may not initially go your way but anything that’s worth having is earned the hard way.
Good luck!
All I can tell you is that 75% of UK migrants go to the old commonwealth countries of Aus, NZ and Canada.
Canada currently offers some nice deals, like 0% income tax for the first 5 years your'e there as a resident non citizen. The qualification for residency rests on being able to afford a place to live or setting up a business. After 5 years you can decide whether or not to stay and go for full citizenship ( when you'll have to start paying tax like everyone else ).
My thoughts, and these are personal and in no way meant to offend, is that NZ can be somewhat isolated and provicial if you're from Europe/UK ( it's like Scotland has been chopped off the UK and stuck 4 hours away in the Atlantic ), Aus is more lively but still can get stale. Canada of course has it's drawbacks....it's cold in winter for a start....but very close to the US for cross border shopping trips, only a 'relatively' short & affordable flight from the UK ( compared to the other 2 ) and consistently scores among the top countries for overall quality of life.
For my part most likely plan is SE Asia next summer for 2 years, followed by 5 in Canada, then possibly depending upon what state Prime Minister Brown has gotten this country into...we'll be back in 2013.
At any rate we are due to leave UK Plc next summer as the existing management seem to be making a pigs ear of running the place.
Canada currently offers some nice deals, like 0% income tax for the first 5 years your'e there as a resident non citizen. The qualification for residency rests on being able to afford a place to live or setting up a business. After 5 years you can decide whether or not to stay and go for full citizenship ( when you'll have to start paying tax like everyone else ).
My thoughts, and these are personal and in no way meant to offend, is that NZ can be somewhat isolated and provicial if you're from Europe/UK ( it's like Scotland has been chopped off the UK and stuck 4 hours away in the Atlantic ), Aus is more lively but still can get stale. Canada of course has it's drawbacks....it's cold in winter for a start....but very close to the US for cross border shopping trips, only a 'relatively' short & affordable flight from the UK ( compared to the other 2 ) and consistently scores among the top countries for overall quality of life.
For my part most likely plan is SE Asia next summer for 2 years, followed by 5 in Canada, then possibly depending upon what state Prime Minister Brown has gotten this country into...we'll be back in 2013.
At any rate we are due to leave UK Plc next summer as the existing management seem to be making a pigs ear of running the place.
found it
5000 sq ft, 5 beds, 5 baths
A large, elegantly styled 1-1/2 storey modern "estate home" (1991) with walkout basement to patio; situated on 2.9 acres on 250ft escarpment sloping steeply to 400ft of waterfront offering a panoramic view of the Bay of Quinte.
Structure is red brick with aluminum clad doors and window frames. All main living areas have large windows overlooking the bay. Approximately 5,000sq ft of finished space with 12 beautifully decorated rooms; 5 large bedrooms (3 on main floor and 2 on upper level) 5 full bathrooms (4 of which are ensuite) and 1 powder room; this does not include the 3 rooms on lower basement level; heated indoor pool and hot tub area; air conditioning; high efficiency propane furnace (new 2002) central vacuum; wall-wall carpeting (except where stated otherwise).
This beautiful property is located 10km north of the historic town of Picton in the Municipality of Prince Edward County (pop. aprox. 30,000) famous for the longest freshwater beaches in N. America; approximately halfway between Toronto and Ottawa. Schools, hospital, library, theatre, shopping and restaurants are less than a 10 minute drive. Nearest cities are Belleville 30km west and Kingston 45km east.
The long stretch of sandy beaches known as the "Sand Banks"; sailing; fishing; scuba diving; boat cruises; horseback riding; hiking; cycling; wineriies and vineyards; antiques and crafts; local artists; pastoral and waterfront scenery; fine dining in great restaurants; attractive small towns with interesting shops and boutiques; and many other features of country living.
GROUND FLOOR - MAIN ROOMS:
·Open style family room 18' x 14', brick fireplace & heatilator, berber w/w carpeting
·Dinette 12'6" x 8' / Kitchen 11' x 10' oak cabinets/armstrong tiled floor
·Formal living room 18' x 14'8"/oak floor surrounding inlaid carpet
·Formal dining room 15' x 11'/oak floor surrounding inlaid carpet
·Master bedroom 17'8" x 15'9"/ensuite jacuzzi/sep. shower/bidet dbl. sinks
·2nd main floor bedroom 18'6" x 11'/ensuite bath/std. size tub with whirlpool action
·3rd bedroom 15' x 11'/ensuite reg. bath, etc.
·Laundry room (off kitchen) 11' x 7'/oak cupboards/pantry & storage closets/door to outside
·Entrance foyer 13' x 11'/ceramic tile/10' ceiling french doors to living room and to family room area/coat closet and stairs to upper level
LOWER FLOOR - BASEMENT LEVEL:
Approximately 1,000 sq ft finished area; all finished rooms face the bay and have wall-wall carpeting. This includes:
·Large family/entertainment room (28'8" x 13') fireplace with heatilator
·Wood panelled to chair rail height; door out to patio
·2nd large room (17'3" x 16'9"
- originally intended as games room (presently used as family bedroom)
·3rd. room (14'9" x 12'4", also presently used as family bedroom) with walk-out to patio.
·Large walk-in storage closet (9'10" x 8'8" and 1 full bathroom.
·Unfinished area: storage with shelves 550sq ft - workshop and utility area 450sq ft
2ND FLOOR - 1/2 STOREY AT REAR OF HOUSE OVERLOOKING THE BAY:
Approximately 600 sq ft of finished area including 2 bedrooms and 1 full bathroom large linen closet in hallway.
UNFINISHED LOFT AREA: This area is over the two wings of the main floor and could be used for extension purposes.
·Bedroom 1 (14'6" x 12') 2nd floor opens directly into bathroom and can be used as an ensuite.
·Bedroom 2 (13'6" x 11') 2nd floor shares bathroom with other bedroom when both rooms are in use.
$550,000 - how much is that in old money?
5000 sq ft, 5 beds, 5 baths
A large, elegantly styled 1-1/2 storey modern "estate home" (1991) with walkout basement to patio; situated on 2.9 acres on 250ft escarpment sloping steeply to 400ft of waterfront offering a panoramic view of the Bay of Quinte.
Structure is red brick with aluminum clad doors and window frames. All main living areas have large windows overlooking the bay. Approximately 5,000sq ft of finished space with 12 beautifully decorated rooms; 5 large bedrooms (3 on main floor and 2 on upper level) 5 full bathrooms (4 of which are ensuite) and 1 powder room; this does not include the 3 rooms on lower basement level; heated indoor pool and hot tub area; air conditioning; high efficiency propane furnace (new 2002) central vacuum; wall-wall carpeting (except where stated otherwise).
This beautiful property is located 10km north of the historic town of Picton in the Municipality of Prince Edward County (pop. aprox. 30,000) famous for the longest freshwater beaches in N. America; approximately halfway between Toronto and Ottawa. Schools, hospital, library, theatre, shopping and restaurants are less than a 10 minute drive. Nearest cities are Belleville 30km west and Kingston 45km east.
The long stretch of sandy beaches known as the "Sand Banks"; sailing; fishing; scuba diving; boat cruises; horseback riding; hiking; cycling; wineriies and vineyards; antiques and crafts; local artists; pastoral and waterfront scenery; fine dining in great restaurants; attractive small towns with interesting shops and boutiques; and many other features of country living.
GROUND FLOOR - MAIN ROOMS:
·Open style family room 18' x 14', brick fireplace & heatilator, berber w/w carpeting
·Dinette 12'6" x 8' / Kitchen 11' x 10' oak cabinets/armstrong tiled floor
·Formal living room 18' x 14'8"/oak floor surrounding inlaid carpet
·Formal dining room 15' x 11'/oak floor surrounding inlaid carpet
·Master bedroom 17'8" x 15'9"/ensuite jacuzzi/sep. shower/bidet dbl. sinks
·2nd main floor bedroom 18'6" x 11'/ensuite bath/std. size tub with whirlpool action
·3rd bedroom 15' x 11'/ensuite reg. bath, etc.
·Laundry room (off kitchen) 11' x 7'/oak cupboards/pantry & storage closets/door to outside
·Entrance foyer 13' x 11'/ceramic tile/10' ceiling french doors to living room and to family room area/coat closet and stairs to upper level
LOWER FLOOR - BASEMENT LEVEL:
Approximately 1,000 sq ft finished area; all finished rooms face the bay and have wall-wall carpeting. This includes:
·Large family/entertainment room (28'8" x 13') fireplace with heatilator
·Wood panelled to chair rail height; door out to patio
·2nd large room (17'3" x 16'9"
- originally intended as games room (presently used as family bedroom) ·3rd. room (14'9" x 12'4", also presently used as family bedroom) with walk-out to patio.
·Large walk-in storage closet (9'10" x 8'8"
and 1 full bathroom. ·Unfinished area: storage with shelves 550sq ft - workshop and utility area 450sq ft
2ND FLOOR - 1/2 STOREY AT REAR OF HOUSE OVERLOOKING THE BAY:
Approximately 600 sq ft of finished area including 2 bedrooms and 1 full bathroom large linen closet in hallway.
UNFINISHED LOFT AREA: This area is over the two wings of the main floor and could be used for extension purposes.
·Bedroom 1 (14'6" x 12') 2nd floor opens directly into bathroom and can be used as an ensuite.
·Bedroom 2 (13'6" x 11') 2nd floor shares bathroom with other bedroom when both rooms are in use.
$550,000 - how much is that in old money?
timmy30 said:What do you plan for SE Asia? It doesn't have the same need for professional skills that the Emirates have so you can't get western wages (or better). If you can then let me know! I'll be out there sharpish.
For my part most likely plan is SE Asia next summer for 2 years, followed by 5 in Canada, then possibly depending upon what state Prime Minister Brown has gotten this country into...we'll be back in 2013.
It is very cheap to live off your savings but they don't last forever.
B17NNS said:
Canada
I like the sound of that.
Where abouts should I live?
How much is property?
Something with a view of a lake would be nice (and not too cold)
Toronto is nice, I like it there anyway and close to NY etc ( relatively ), alot of people rave about Vancouver ( it's a bit further away though ) and Quebec ( Montreal ) which is supposed to be lurvely....but is very francophone.
Property generally is about 1/2 to 1/3 UK prices, so a nice 4 bed detached house, big garden and garage in a suburb is about £120k.
Do a search on the web there are loads of companies that specialise in Canadian property. As I say the nice thing is that you can be a resident for 5 years without paying tax. Though you will need to meet certain criteria for that.
TBO..... flights are cheap to Toronto, it'a a lovely place, if you're in no great hurry wait till spring/summer next year and hop over for a look.
rsvmilly said:
For my part most likely plan is SE Asia next summer for 2 years, followed by 5 in Canada, then possibly depending upon what state Prime Minister Brown has gotten this country into...we'll be back in 2013.
It is very cheap to live off your savings but they don't last forever.
Plan is to get an internal transfer with work. Trick is to get an 'expat' package so I keep my lovely £ salary. Already doing the groundwork
kerfuffle said:
Drive to Calais and catch a ferry.
Poor joke, but at least I got it in first
Mine was better
"Keep running in any direction: you'll fall off eventually...."
It is a better gag, but it's speed over quality when cheap tee-ups like these are being handed out!
Fair enough
timmy30 said:
My thoughts, and these are personal and in no way meant to offend, is that NZ can be somewhat isolated and provicial if you're from Europe/UK ( it's like Scotland has been chopped off the UK and stuck 4 hours away in the Atlantic
I don't think any Kiwi that is completely honest with themselves would disagree (or be offended at all). With the similar landmass to the UK and only 4M people, it is a bit on the empty side. Provincial is putting it midly in some areas...
Which leads me to my input, with this move you need to be aware of what you'd be giving up as much as what you'll be gaining. NZ is pretty quiet, even Auckland isn't really a hustle and bustle sort of place. However, the payoff is a good quality of life and access to a outdoor lifestyle few places in the world can match. I moved from NZ to the UK when I was 19, which was perfect as I was young enough to really enjoy the bright lights and big city stuff you just cannot find in NZ. Now I'm 32, I'm already planning my move back, as all I want to do in life is ski, windsurf and mountain bike. I will definitely be saying goodbye to large parts of my current life though. No more huge owner's club meets, no more going to F1, GP Bike, Rally of GB events, not even the slimmest hope of popping over to the 'Ring for a few laps with some mates...
You may be sick of where you are, but make sure you're ok with the good things you'll lose as a result of your relocation, that's what a lot people seem to forget to do.
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