Some planes blowing up/crashing
Some planes blowing up/crashing
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Parrot of doom

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23,075 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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www.wimp.com/aircraft/

Obviously, some people in there didn't make it

eharding

14,648 posts

314 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Ouch.

R988

7,498 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Suprised they missed putting the harrier one in, the rest are all vids have done the rounds over the past few years.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Just remembered why I hate heckilopters....


The B52 was down to an angry display pilot after being told to abort his landing and go round again....

-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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How did those two choppers at the start suddenly snap in half?

goo-goo-gjoob

812 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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-DeaDLocK- said:
How did those two choppers at the start suddenly snap in half?

Looks like the main blades hit. One went down intact. The other's tail was chopped off, maybe by a loose piece of the blade?

eccles

14,399 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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mybrainhurts said:
Just remembered why I hate heckilopters....


The B52 was down to an angry display pilot after being told to abort his landing and go round again....



it turned out the pilot was a dangerous idiot, and not many people would fly with him.
its a bit in depth, but here's a link to an analysis of the events leading up to, and after the crash....a little long winded, but well worth a read though.

http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/p

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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The last accident is Hoof Proudfoot's fatal P-38 crash at Duxford a few years ago. Very sad.

DJFish

6,017 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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There are quite a lot of people dying in those clips......

Bit of a gruesome montage when you think about it.

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Eric Mc said:
The last accident is Hoof Proudfoot's fatal P-38 crash at Duxford a few years ago. Very sad.


Yeah, just noticed that one - very sad.....

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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some of those turned my stomach.

moreymach

1,029 posts

296 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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DJFish said:
There are quite a lot of people dying in those clips......

Bit of a gruesome montage when you think about it.


My thoughts exactly.. the choice of music doesnt help.

GreenV8S

31,025 posts

314 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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goo-goo-gjoob said:
-DeaDLocK- said:
How did those two choppers at the start suddenly snap in half?

Looks like the main blades hit. One went down intact. The other's tail was chopped off, maybe by a loose piece of the blade?


I wondered about that too. There seemed to be a visible gap between the two and then they both broke up simultaneously, I wondered if they had flown into a power line or something but there was no sign of one.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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I think the tail unit of one of the choppers broke off either because of excessive stress loads brought about by the gyrations or it was struck by one of its own rotors.

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Eric Mc said:
I think the tail unit of one of the choppers broke off either because of
excessive stress loads brought about by the gyrations or it was struck by one of its own rotors.
Seems the most likely explanation. If a blade is lost then the imbalance is often severe enough to break the necks of the occupants, even before hitting the ground.

Edit to say I was behind the scenes at the Fairford show when the two MiGs crashed and one of them came down about 200 yards from the head of a fuel pipe that ran direct to a refinery We were taken onto the taxiways next day and seeing the ejection seat half buried in the tarmac was an eye-opener to say the least.

It does seem a bit sick making a video of people dying for amusement purposes, although maybe I have a different view flying for a living.


>> Edited by wolves_wanderer on Wednesday 23 November 14:27

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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The firefighting plane, appears that its wings just folded up and snapped off?!? Think of those pilots' loved ones running across those vids on the net, makes me sad to think about that.

bad_roo

5,196 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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Crikey. Hoof didn't go out with a whimper. RIP.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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eccles said:
mybrainhurts said:
Just remembered why I hate heckilopters....


The B52 was down to an angry display pilot after being told to abort his landing and go round again....



it turned out the pilot was a dangerous idiot, and not many people would fly with him.
its a bit in depth, but here's a link to an analysis of the events leading up to, and after the crash....a little long winded, but well worth a read though.

http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/p


It was featured recently in a Discovery Wings programme about military air crash investigation.


>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Wednesday 23 November 16:02

s2gonzo

6,257 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2005
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eccles said:
mybrainhurts said:
Just remembered why I hate heckilopters....


The B52 was down to an angry display pilot after being told to abort his landing and go round again....



it turned out the pilot was a dangerous idiot, and not many people would fly with him.
its a bit in depth, but here's a link to an analysis of the events leading up to, and after the crash....a little long winded, but well worth a read though.

http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/p


Lt Col. "Bud" Holland.... nutter in the extreme....

Heres an littel passage about another of his flying "incidents" found on the web........

"Lt Col Holland was the aircraft commander on a single ship mission to the Yakima Bombing Range to drop practice munitions and provide an authorized photographer an opportunity to shoot pictures of the B-52 from the ground as it conducted its bomb runs. Lt Col Holland flew the aircraft well below the established 500 foot minimum altitude for the low level training route. In fact, one crossover was photographed at less than 30 feet, and another crewmember estimated that the final ridgeline crossover was "somewhere in the neighborhood of about three feet" (emphasis added) above the ground, and that the aircraft would have impacted the ridge if he had not intervened and pulled back on the yoke to increase the aircraft's altitude. The photographers stopped filming because "they thought we were going to impact . . . and they were ducking out of the way." Lt Col Holland also joined an unbriefed formation of A-10 fighter aircraft to accomplish a flyby over the photographer. This mission violated ACC Regulations regarding minimum altitudes, FAR Part 91 and Air Force Regulation (AFR) 60-16, regarding overflight of people on the ground. There were several occasions during the flight where other crewmembers verbally voiced their opposition to the actions being taken by Lt Col Holland. Following the flight, these same crewmembers went up the squadron chain of command with their story and stated they would not fly with Lt Col Holland again."

Here's straight from the co-pilot's mouth, Captain Eric Jones. "We came around and (Lt) Col Holland took us down to 50 feet. I told him that this was well below the clearance plane and that we needed to climb. He ignored me. I told him (again) as we approached the ridge line. I told him in three quick bursts 'climb-climb-climb.' . . I didn't see any clearance that we were going to clear the top of that mountain ... It appeared to me that he had target fixation. I said 'climb-climb-climb.' again, he did not do it. I grabbed ahold of the yoke and I pulled it back pretty abruptly ... I'd estimate we had a cross over around 15 feet . . . The radar navigator and the navigator were verbally yelling or screaming, reprimanding (Lt) Col Holland and saying that there was no need to fly that low ... his reaction to that input was he was laughing--I mean a good belly laugh".

Nutter......

the real horrible thing in the crash is that the co pilot tried (in vain) to eject but was killed on impact. There is even a pretty clear picture on the web of the plane and the ejection seat appears visible. But I wont post it here....