Separate MMR jabs in Kent
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It has been pretty well established that the autism scare was just that: a 'scare' based on bad science and cr4ppy tabloid journalism.
All the healthcare professionals I have talked to about it advised me that the separate jabs are not necessarily as effective as the single MMR. When it comes to the health of my children, the cost isn't a factor; we chose the single jab as it is the best option.
All the healthcare professionals I have talked to about it advised me that the separate jabs are not necessarily as effective as the single MMR. When it comes to the health of my children, the cost isn't a factor; we chose the single jab as it is the best option.
www.healthchoiceuk.co.uk
We used them for our son, very good, very professional.
Not getting into the combined/seperate arguement - it was my choice okay? Not yours.
These people charge about £100 per jab, three months apart.
We used them for our son, very good, very professional.
Not getting into the combined/seperate arguement - it was my choice okay? Not yours.
These people charge about £100 per jab, three months apart.
968 said:
Yep, any private hospital will give you the MMR jabs singly.
You won't, to my knowledge, get them on the NHS in kent even if you aleady have autistic children
Do you offer them privately, Julian?
Nope, I have to grit my teeth when someone gets charged £100 a throw for them.
So probably should do. I'd defend a parents right to choose. I do have a problem with parents who choose nothing though.
Julian64 said:
I do have a problem with parents who choose nothing though.
Why?
I really dont get this, I never had these as a kid and everyone got mumps, measles etc at some point, and as far as I can remember, no-one died of it!
My daughter (19months) hasn't had MMR as yet, or nothing else, and to be honest, I'm fairly happy with that situation.
I really don;t trust this government and wonder if the Autism thing has "gone away" under their instruction?
Measles, Mumps and Rubella can all be life threatening or cause serious delibilitating effects over the lifetime of someone who has caught them.
I suggest you do some reading now...
As far as MMR goes there is absolutely ZERO evidence that it causes any harm whatsoever.
Incidentally, I'm a scientist, I have observed, ooo, about 7 toddlers in the last 5 years and I've noticed that all those who wear yellow coats and red shoes on a thursday between 10am and 12pm go on to develop acute gigantism in their Shatner's Bassoon. I think parents ouught to be wary of allowing their little darlings to dress in these clothes.
I suggest you do some reading now...
As far as MMR goes there is absolutely ZERO evidence that it causes any harm whatsoever.
Incidentally, I'm a scientist, I have observed, ooo, about 7 toddlers in the last 5 years and I've noticed that all those who wear yellow coats and red shoes on a thursday between 10am and 12pm go on to develop acute gigantism in their Shatner's Bassoon. I think parents ouught to be wary of allowing their little darlings to dress in these clothes.
[quote="American NIH"]
Measles itself is unpleasant, but the complications are dangerous. Six to 20 percent of the people who get the disease will get an ear infection, diarrhea, or even pneumonia. One out of 1000 people with measles will develop inflammation of the brain, and about one out of 1000 will die.
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As for mumps... if you don't catch it as a child and are infected as an adult then as a male you stand a 10 - 20% chance of your testicles being infected by the virus which can lead to infertility.
As for Rubella, I suggest for your homework you practice researching risk factors and evaluating the best of action to take...
edit: not vaccinating your child not only puts them at risk but the whole of society... Once a certain critical loading of vaccinations is not met then diseases like these spread in an epidemic fashion.
>> Edited by D_Mike on Wednesday 19th October 19:44
Measles itself is unpleasant, but the complications are dangerous. Six to 20 percent of the people who get the disease will get an ear infection, diarrhea, or even pneumonia. One out of 1000 people with measles will develop inflammation of the brain, and about one out of 1000 will die.
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As for mumps... if you don't catch it as a child and are infected as an adult then as a male you stand a 10 - 20% chance of your testicles being infected by the virus which can lead to infertility.
As for Rubella, I suggest for your homework you practice researching risk factors and evaluating the best of action to take...
edit: not vaccinating your child not only puts them at risk but the whole of society... Once a certain critical loading of vaccinations is not met then diseases like these spread in an epidemic fashion.
>> Edited by D_Mike on Wednesday 19th October 19:44
[quote=D_Mikeedit: not vaccinating your child not only puts them at risk but the whole of society... Once a certain critical loading of vaccinations is not met then diseases like these spread in an epidemic fashion.
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We have actually got a mumps mini-epidemic upon us now in North Worcestershire. Emergency vaccinations of schoolkids.
edited to add judging by our GP practice yesterday the world and his wife wants a flu jab at the moment.
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Wednesday 19th October 20:46
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We have actually got a mumps mini-epidemic upon us now in North Worcestershire. Emergency vaccinations of schoolkids.
edited to add judging by our GP practice yesterday the world and his wife wants a flu jab at the moment.
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Wednesday 19th October 20:46
Julian64 said:
Nope, I have to grit my teeth when someone gets charged £100 a throw for them.
So probably should do. I'd defend a parents right to choose. I do have a problem with parents who choose nothing though.
I'd agree with that, but there are many poster on PH who amaze me with their naievety about their cars too. It's a choice thing.
Smartie said:
Why?
I really dont get this, I never had these as a kid and everyone got mumps, measles etc at some point, and as far as I can remember, no-one died of it!
My daughter (19months) hasn't had MMR as yet, or nothing else, and to be honest, I'm fairly happy with that situation.
I really don;t trust this government and wonder if the Autism thing has "gone away" under their instruction?
You should be very bothered because the reason why you may not have contracted one of these illnesses, is because of 'herd' immunity, which means if you immunise the majority of the population, there will be fewer people who can be infected, therefore the diseases die out, such as smallpox. Polio and Measles may also disappear entirely, because of this policy.
Measles, mumps and rubella are all potentially very harmful diseases. Congenital rubella can cause permanent and severe disability, blindness and deafness, and mental retardation. Measles can kill in the acute stage, even if it doesn't kill, years later it can cause a fatal brain wasting disease. Mumps can cause permanent infertility, meningitis and encephalitis......
The recent controversy about autism, was utter boll*x. It was a piece of 'research' which was done by one chap, on the payroll of the parents of children with autism. It has been refuted by a number of entirely independent papers, from researchers from around the world.
Smartie said:
but thats the point, I contracted ALL of these, as did most of the kids on our street!
I very much doubt it. Even if you did, some of the effects may not show up for many years, such as measles can cause SSPE, which is a fatal brain wasting disease, which can occur 30 years or more later.
Smartie said:
are you really saying that it wasn't a common accourance for kids in the late 70's to get measles and mumps?
Of course people contracted measles and mumps, however that doesn't negate the fact that these disease carry a significant risk of causing severe illness. Just because you didn't get very ill, doesn't mean that others didn't.
D_Mike said:
Incidentally, I'm a scientist, I have observed, ooo, about 7 toddlers in the last 5 years and I've noticed that all those who wear yellow coats and red shoes on a thursday between 10am and 12pm go on to develop acute gigantism in their Shatner's Bassoon. I think parents ouught to be wary of allowing their little darlings to dress in these clothes.
Really? Was your study published?
I was being fairly serious about this and this flippant reply is a bit beneath you surely?
Wow this threads gone on since I left work yesterday!
I'm afraid I get a lot of, 'well I had it when I was young and it didn't do me any harm' arguments in my surgery.
I believe it highlights the fact that on any one decision making process the rank order of internal importance is
Personal experience.
Experience of peer groupfriends or family.
What the media morons tell you.
G.P.
Statistics.
I suspect some of it is a natural suspicion that doctors say one thing and do another, which is of course true in some cases. Take chickenpox for example, no longer a good idea to suggest chickenpox parties, but I bet most doctors do exactly this with their children.
I think this undermines us sometimes, but measles really is quite a dangerous disease for those who have a peer group of over 100. Or if of course you happen to be unlucky.
I'm afraid I get a lot of, 'well I had it when I was young and it didn't do me any harm' arguments in my surgery.
I believe it highlights the fact that on any one decision making process the rank order of internal importance is
Personal experience.
Experience of peer groupfriends or family.
What the media morons tell you.
G.P.
Statistics.
I suspect some of it is a natural suspicion that doctors say one thing and do another, which is of course true in some cases. Take chickenpox for example, no longer a good idea to suggest chickenpox parties, but I bet most doctors do exactly this with their children.
I think this undermines us sometimes, but measles really is quite a dangerous disease for those who have a peer group of over 100. Or if of course you happen to be unlucky.
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