plasma versus LCD TV
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apache

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39,731 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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What's the future gonna be? and where's the best deals at?

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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LCD.

Richer Sounds.

Job done.

baskey

14,291 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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lcd always look fuzzy to me, plasma don't.

lcd will win cos uk hs small houses and all the manufacturers seem to want to only make small ones in lcd ergo bob's yer uncle lcd wins...

flasher

9,317 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Plasma

LCD's are better up to 32" but I went for the plasma option as 32" was too small for the wall.

I reckon the deal below is pretty unbeatable for a wall mountable one.

www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1292974882.1129114137@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccejaddflmjefikcflgceggdhhmdgml.0&page=Product&sku=152869&category_oid=-25961&fm=20&sm=0&tm=undefined

driftwood

531 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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My Son has just treated hiself to a 42" HD Plasma after shopping around and seeing what the new HD signal should give you. (the shop was using a computer generated High Definition signal and the picture looked superb)
He's got it set up, the sound quality is brilliant and the picture is very good although skin tones sometimes look a bit naff. Having said that, I've now noticed skin tones more on my own set (Conventional 28" TFS) and I would say that 'poor skin tones' are just exagerated on the Plasma.
That's just my experience and twopennorthworth lol

speedy_thrills

7,955 posts

273 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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apache said:
What's the future gonna be? and where's the best deals at?
I don’t see what was wrong with the old CRT TV’s, I cant say I have noticed a substantially better picture with anything else and I can assure you I have excellent vision. Seems to be a bit of a gimmick to just sell TV’s, mind you they do come in useful if you need a very small, thin, light and compact unit such as in cars and aircraft.

It’s like these modern cars with complex interfaces and controls to do the same job that a few switches, knobs and buttons can do for less than a tenth of the cost. I doubt many people would buy a car for its small TV to display the temperature inside the car to .1 in of a degree in 32 different colours, more concentration on the car itself and less on tacky un-needed stuff.

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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lazyitus

19,931 posts

296 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Whatever you do, make sure its HD (High Definition) Ready.

apache

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39,731 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Ok but is it going to become another Betamax/VHS thing? dunno if a 42" wouldn't be too big for the room but I have to change the normal TV as everything is in widescreen now

lazyitus

19,931 posts

296 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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apache said:
Ok but is it going to become another Betamax/VHS thing? dunno if a 42" wouldn't be too big for the room but I have to change the normal TV as everything is in widescreen now


I don't think HD will be a fad. Its the next step in clarity. SKY will be airing a substantial amount of TV next year that will operate with HD.

I bought a 42" Plasma recently. Its ace. Its in a specific room though, specifically designed for leisure. We have a 32" in the living room which is perfect. The 42" would have looked out of place in the living room, a little overpowering. Because its in the 'leisure' room, its the focal point which is what we wanted.

thetruemackie

8,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Go and look at some, and make your own mind up based on what you like the look of and how much you're willing to spend. The only thing I will say is that if you're buying now then definately make sure it's HD ready (look for the sticker).

I'll be in the market for a 32in flat panel in the near future and at the moment it looks like it'll be an LCD.

It's no VHS/Betamex issue, Bluray/HD-DVD is another matter however!

Jay GTi

1,026 posts

253 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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The thing I don't like about plasma screens (apart from the burns on my fingers I got when I touched the screen of one once) is the plasma recharging they require.

For huge screen sizes they are the way to go, certainly over LCD technology, but if you're sticking around the 32in size then nothing beats a good old CRT TV. Both plasma and LCD technologies are improving by the day, but think of the development time a CRT screen has had in comparision. It's going to take a while to match!

At the moment the high-speed object movement smearing and lag problems both LCD and plasma screens suffer from still annoy me enough to not even consider retiring my Loewe CRT just yet.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Depends on size.

If you want the best picture period buy CRT.

LCD is good upto 32", thereafter its Plasma.

Beware - there are lots of cheap (relatively) LCD's and Plasmas. They are cheap for a reason.

42" Plasma for £995? - you had better like the way it looks on the wall because the picture quality will not be up to much. Spend between £2000 - £2500 and get the best on the market (Pioneer or Panasonic)

Will be getting the Pioneer myself shortly (PDP-436XDE)

thetruemackie

8,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Is anyone producing decent HD-compatible CRTs?

I currently have a very good 28in Philips Matchline set with 100hz digital scan and all the nice noise filtering gubbins and it's very good. However compare it to HD footage on an recent LCD and there's no comparison - the only thing it still beats LCDs on it the black level. I've got my TV tuned that so even in complete darkness black is actually black.

A year ago I would have agreed that CRTs give the best overall picture (brighness, contrast a colour) but after seeing new HD-ready LCDs recently I'm amazed at how far they've come.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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speedy_thrills said:

apache said:
What's the future gonna be? and where's the best deals at?

I don’t see what was wrong with the old CRT TV’s, I cant say I have noticed a substantially better picture with anything else and I can assure you I have excellent vision. Seems to be a bit of a gimmick to just sell TV’s, mind you they do come in useful if you need a very small, thin, light and compact unit such as in cars and aircraft.

It’s like these modern cars with complex interfaces and controls to do the same job that a few switches, knobs and buttons can do for less than a tenth of the cost. I doubt many people would buy a car for its small TV to display the temperature inside the car to .1 in of a degree in 32 different colours, more concentration on the car itself and less on tacky un-needed stuff.

Well said that man.

dieseljohn

2,114 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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thetruemackie said:
Is anyone producing decent HD-compatible CRTs?

I currently have a very good 28in Philips Matchline set with 100hz digital scan and all the nice noise filtering gubbins and it's very good. However compare it to HD footage on an recent LCD and there's no comparison - the only thing it still beats LCDs on it the black level. I've got my TV tuned that so even in complete darkness black is actually black.

A year ago I would have agreed that CRTs give the best overall picture (brighness, contrast a colour) but after seeing new HD-ready LCDs recently I'm amazed at how far they've come.


I've just been through this myself and the only company that seems to is JVC. I've just taken delivery of a www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00084YFMM/qid=1127828686/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-9532927-0296623
The picture is great but I haven't got any way of testing its HDTVness yet.

coach

1,118 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Jay GTi said:
The thing I don't like about plasma screens ...... is the plasma recharging they require.



I think someone may have been pulling your plonker when they told you that one!

Coach

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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coach said:

Jay GTi said:
The thing I don't like about plasma screens ...... is the plasma recharging they require.




I think someone may have been pulling your plonker when they told you that one!

Coach


Sounds like a pub expert...

fishtek69

535 posts

268 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Agree with what most of everyone has said already - LCD if 32" or smaller, Plasma if any larger. And make sure it's HDTV ready, unless you know you're going to replace it as your next set in the next two or three years.

We have a Philips 32" CRT with 'Pixel Plus 2', and I've yet to see ANY picture, aside from computer-generated HDTV images, that matches it for quality. Having said that, my personal preference if I were in the market right now would be for a 42/43" Plasma by either Pioneer (used to be outstanding, but caught up recently), Panasonic (best user-interface and design IMHO) or Philips (the brand-new ones really are the mutts nuts).

There's no need to be paying any more than £3k for the best mid-sized Plasmas now, and ideally (with a bit of searching) the price for a premium set should be nearer £2k.

The cheaper one's generally aren't a great deal of cop, although they are often as good as the top models were a few years ago - so decide how important picture quality is. Any 42" Plasma should be better than a similar sized rear-projection model, unless it's using a really old school panel.

apache

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Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Are refresh rates still an issue?