Official statistics show flight from London continuing
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116,000 more UK citizens moved out of London last year than went there to live. This is a continuation of a trend seen over the last few years.
I want to escape too :weeping:
Full Telegraph article below
High cost of living sends 116,000 out of London to seek their rural idyll
By Sarah Womack, Social Affairs Correspondent
(Filed: 30/09/2005)
The exorbitant cost of living and raising a family in London was a major factor in driving 116,000 people out of the capital last year, a report on population trends said yesterday.
The rural population is now growing eight times faster than that of inner cities, with better health and educational opportunities, and low crime, among the major attractions.
The report, published by the Office for National Statistics, said the South West had most newcomers, with almost 34,000 more people moving into the region than from it.
Figures are based on the number of people who register at GP practices and do not show whether those who moved out of London still commute to the capital to work.
The South West's gain was about 1.8 times higher than in the East of England which had the next largest gain at almost 19,000.
London had the largest outflow of people moving within Britain. The only other region to show such an outflow in the year to mid-2004 was the West Midlands, with 7,000 people leaving.
Among local and unitary authorities, the largest net inflow was in the East Riding of Yorkshire (3,800) and the largest net outflow was in Birmingham (12,000).
But the next 12 largest outflows were recorded by London boroughs. Of the 39 areas that recorded an outflow of 1,500 or more, 25 were in London.
Market towns and small cities are doing particularly well as a result of internal migration, with home-buyers paying a premium for attractive places to live with good transport links, easy commuting and convenient shopping.
Richard Craze, the author of Out of your Townie Mind, says that up to 40 per cent of people who move out of cities and into the countryside end up returning because rural life does not agree with them.
"The danger is throwing yourself headlong into a new life without looking where you're going," he said.
He recently ran a survey to find out what the top fantasies of people moving to the countryside were - from having space and wide views, to people making their own jam.
He also asked ex-town dwellers what they wished they had done differently when they moved to the country, and what they considered the biggest disadvantages of rural life.
"There is the classic mistake of imagining that just because your lifestyle changes, you will change with it," he said. "It is so tempting to think that a new you will emerge from the experience of moving to the country. But it simply doesn't happen.
"If you're always too busy now, you'll be too busy in the country. If you're lazy, you'll still be lazy.
"Many people are deeply disappointed when the vegetable patch becomes overgrown or when they find they hate chickens."
"If you have a job, or a family, or a time-consuming hobby, there won't be any more free time.
"There will probably be less because so many things take longer. You can't just nip to the shops once you move; it may be a 20-minute drive."
But people should not abandon their dream. "Learn to recognise its shortcomings and find out how to enjoy it despite them."
The Commission for Rural Communities said people who lived in the countryside felt more secure than their urban counterparts.
"Rural areas continue to have lower levels of recorded crime and many rural residents enjoy comparatively high levels of household income."
I want to escape too :weeping:
Full Telegraph article below
High cost of living sends 116,000 out of London to seek their rural idyll
By Sarah Womack, Social Affairs Correspondent
(Filed: 30/09/2005)
The exorbitant cost of living and raising a family in London was a major factor in driving 116,000 people out of the capital last year, a report on population trends said yesterday.
The rural population is now growing eight times faster than that of inner cities, with better health and educational opportunities, and low crime, among the major attractions.
The report, published by the Office for National Statistics, said the South West had most newcomers, with almost 34,000 more people moving into the region than from it.
Figures are based on the number of people who register at GP practices and do not show whether those who moved out of London still commute to the capital to work.
The South West's gain was about 1.8 times higher than in the East of England which had the next largest gain at almost 19,000.
London had the largest outflow of people moving within Britain. The only other region to show such an outflow in the year to mid-2004 was the West Midlands, with 7,000 people leaving.
Among local and unitary authorities, the largest net inflow was in the East Riding of Yorkshire (3,800) and the largest net outflow was in Birmingham (12,000).
But the next 12 largest outflows were recorded by London boroughs. Of the 39 areas that recorded an outflow of 1,500 or more, 25 were in London.
Market towns and small cities are doing particularly well as a result of internal migration, with home-buyers paying a premium for attractive places to live with good transport links, easy commuting and convenient shopping.
Richard Craze, the author of Out of your Townie Mind, says that up to 40 per cent of people who move out of cities and into the countryside end up returning because rural life does not agree with them.
"The danger is throwing yourself headlong into a new life without looking where you're going," he said.
He recently ran a survey to find out what the top fantasies of people moving to the countryside were - from having space and wide views, to people making their own jam.
He also asked ex-town dwellers what they wished they had done differently when they moved to the country, and what they considered the biggest disadvantages of rural life.
"There is the classic mistake of imagining that just because your lifestyle changes, you will change with it," he said. "It is so tempting to think that a new you will emerge from the experience of moving to the country. But it simply doesn't happen.
"If you're always too busy now, you'll be too busy in the country. If you're lazy, you'll still be lazy.
"Many people are deeply disappointed when the vegetable patch becomes overgrown or when they find they hate chickens."
"If you have a job, or a family, or a time-consuming hobby, there won't be any more free time.
"There will probably be less because so many things take longer. You can't just nip to the shops once you move; it may be a 20-minute drive."
But people should not abandon their dream. "Learn to recognise its shortcomings and find out how to enjoy it despite them."
The Commission for Rural Communities said people who lived in the countryside felt more secure than their urban counterparts.
"Rural areas continue to have lower levels of recorded crime and many rural residents enjoy comparatively high levels of household income."
Yes after 8 years in the place I escaped last year....never going back.
Last time I went I noticed something I never noticed whilst I was there.....the entire London underground network smells of BO and p*ss. My mates who still lived there didn't notice it.
I also noticed how tired and ill everyone looked. What a place.
Last time I went I noticed something I never noticed whilst I was there.....the entire London underground network smells of BO and p*ss. My mates who still lived there didn't notice it.
I also noticed how tired and ill everyone looked. What a place.
timmy30 said:
Yes after 8 years in the place I escaped last year....never going back.
Last time I went I noticed something I never noticed whilst I was there.....the entire London underground network smells of BO and p*ss. My mates who still lived there didn't notice it.
I also noticed how tired and ill everyone looked. What a place.
Try blowing your nose after a brief visit to anywhere in the City/West end.
Black snot is not nice.
i live near a well known north kent shopping center
and i can tell you we have a london overspill problem already..local papers are reporting an upshift in violent crimes over the past year or two and i can tell you town as it shal be refered to can be a bloody no go zone some weekend nights...strangley feel safer drinking in london..i miss the good ol days..still off for a pint at the prospect of witby no scum there as its in east london and everyone has moved..oh the silvery cigar tube of humanity!!!
and i can tell you we have a london overspill problem already..local papers are reporting an upshift in violent crimes over the past year or two and i can tell you town as it shal be refered to can be a bloody no go zone some weekend nights...strangley feel safer drinking in london..i miss the good ol days..still off for a pint at the prospect of witby no scum there as its in east london and everyone has moved..oh the silvery cigar tube of humanity!!!
Vitesse39 said:
It's not just London, High Wycombe is just as bad to live in
We are plotting our escape right now
Hey fellow Wycombwite!
The good news about the exodus from the scum ridden SE is that hopefully the company will move and I can escape to someplace where it's fun to go outside.
>> Edited by Munter on Friday 30th September 13:15
polar_ben said:
Try blowing your nose after a brief visit to anywhere in the City/West end.
Black snot is not nice.
Nonsense, pollution is a 'lentilist' myth. Just ask Turbobloke and Nonegreen. It's the bloody cyclists in London that are the real problem.
I was crossing the road last time I went to London and was almost run over by some t
t on a rickshaw who decided to ignore the red light and pedestrian crossing. That's exactly what one of my employers did last year! His place was in Twickenham, a shop, small warehouse and flat above it. He now has a converted farmhouse (huge!) and loads of outbuildings here in Gloucestershire, and the overheads have reduces significantly, even though the new place is 50 times the size!
The idiots implimenting economic policies in London should be shot for treason, they are killing the economy, squeezing every last morsal of profit the businesses make paying stupifyingly horrendous amounts of rates/tax!
I often wonder if it's too late for the UK, I can only see us going under!
The idiots implimenting economic policies in London should be shot for treason, they are killing the economy, squeezing every last morsal of profit the businesses make paying stupifyingly horrendous amounts of rates/tax!
I often wonder if it's too late for the UK, I can only see us going under!
JagLover said:
Figures are based on the number of people who register at GP practices and do not show whether those who moved out of London still commute to the capital to work.
Is that the best indication they've got? What if people don't register at a GP?
Surely they should use electoral roll / council tax data?
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