Martin Luther King.
Discussion
Yesterday while waiting for my food at the "Wok inn" Chinese take-away i leant on the counter and watched the sky TV channel showing a documentary on Martin Luther King,i was in a light joking mood and looking forward to my chinese meal but looking at MLK's facial expression,his eyes and listening to his "I have a Dream" speech i still couldnt fail to be moved.
He moved me as a child and now some 40 years later he still has the same affect,that is one man that never died in vain as far as i am concerned and a total inspiration.
Anyone else feel this?
He moved me as a child and now some 40 years later he still has the same affect,that is one man that never died in vain as far as i am concerned and a total inspiration.
Anyone else feel this?
One thing that i never realised until last night was his message was taken in by movements all around the globe,all those years ago i thought his appeals were just for American and of course my little ears took it all in too,at the time i could never understand why the white man and black man fought each other on news reels being relayed around the world
My mother was a racist,born out of her ignorance,my father totaly the opposite and although i was closer to my mother i fought against her views,what helped was the freindly blackmans face filled with passion and commitment and it was only last night i think i truely realised the courage of such a person.
My mother was a racist,born out of her ignorance,my father totaly the opposite and although i was closer to my mother i fought against her views,what helped was the freindly blackmans face filled with passion and commitment and it was only last night i think i truely realised the courage of such a person.
968 said:
He is an inspiration to me certainly, what a contrast to the etnic minority 'spokesmen' of today.
Oh the irony of this post.
It is an ironic situation that the true believers in his message would now be a white guy campaigning against affirmative action or being crushed by the forces of political correctness. Whilst those who profess to be following in his footsteps want society organised along strict racial lines with preference given to those racial groups which are 'victims of racism'.
silversun said:
JagLover said:
Whilst those who profess to be following in his footsteps want society organised along strict racial lines with preference given to those racial groups which are 'victims of racism'.
Really? How'd you work that one out?
Study the pronouncements of most of the ethnic minority 'spokesmen'. In America they believe in a policy of affirmative action, everyone catalogued by race, and then 'disadvantaged' races being favoured.
Here, to take two examples, it is often smaller scale with local councils and other government bodies favouring charities specifically for ethnic minorities and ‘spokesmen’ complaining that the numbers of blacks searched on the street is disproportionate. All part of building a culture of victim hood to justify special measures for the communities they claim to represent.
Instead of a colour blind society of equal opportunity, they seek one divided on racial lines with their own races favoured.
>> Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 28th September 13:59
JagLover said:
Study the pronouncements of most of the ethnic minority 'spokesmen'. In America they believe in a policy of affirmative action, everyone catalogued by race, and then 'disadvantaged' races being favoured.
Why do you place the word disadvantaged in quotes? Do you not think that black Americans have suffered disadvantage over the past 40 years? I agree that affirmative action isn't a good answer, but to try to trivialise the civil rights struggle, ironically spearheaded by MLK (who you lavish with praise) by suggesting that they are not disadvantaged is hilariously hypocritical.
nonegreen said:
Here, to take two examples, it is often smaller scale with local councils and other government bodies favouring charities specifically for ethnic minorities and ‘spokesmen’ complaining that the numbers of blacks searched on the street is disproportionate. All part of building a culture of victim hood to justify special measures for the communities they claim to represent.
No, because of course, no minority people in this country could ever have any reason to feel victimised by a totally fair minded society that holds each immigrant group close to the bosom of its society. Yes I am being deeply sarcastic, primarily because you are talking boll*x. Affirmative action is boll*x, of that there is no question, but to suggest that minorities claiming victimisation is some kind of hysteria is both insulting and wrong.
968 said:
Why do you place the word disadvantaged in quotes? Do you not think that black Americans have suffered disadvantage over the past 40 years? I agree that affirmative action isn't a good answer, but to try to trivialise the civil rights struggle, ironically spearheaded by MLK (who you lavish with praise) by suggesting that they are not disadvantaged is hilariously hypocritical.
I believe in the 'civil rights' struggle where it means equal rights and opportunities for all races, not where it is crude racial quotas.
>> Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 28th September 14:21
JagLover said:
I believe in the 'civil rights' struggle where it means equal rights and opportunities for all races, not where it is crude racial quotas.
>> Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 28th September 14:21
I don't think that anyone would argue with that, but do not make the mistake that minority groups have been and are still being disadvantaged in many ways in our society, and in other similar societies.
968 said:
Affirmative action is boll*x, of that there is no question, but to suggest that minorities claiming victimisation is some kind of hysteria is both insulting and wrong.
I'm not denying that racism still exists in this country, but that practised by those in authority is as likely to be against whites as any other race.
The key to a 'colour blind' society is acceptance. How can this happen when your average white bloke feels he is being discriminated against due to 'positive discrimination'. I've no doubt that other groups also feel and indeed are discrinated against but as an average white I can only speak for myself as one of those who can be legally ignored from jobs etc. as my face doesn't fit.
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