Oil price question
Author
Discussion

tonyvid

Original Poster:

9,889 posts

273 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
Probably a dumb question but where does the money from increased oil prices go to - the pumping and refining costs are probably similar now as they were 6 months ago(hurricanes not taken into account) so is it all extra profit to the oily companies, the oily countries or what?

r988

7,496 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
Into large bank accounts.

Its supply and demand that affects the price.

MILF

1,209 posts

275 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
I agree, mostly to Gordon Brown though since Petrol in this Country is taxed to the hilt.

On a slightly different angle, how many gallons in a standard "barrel" of oil ?

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
The increase in Oil price goes to

a) the traders who own the oil that is being traded

b) The Oil companies

c) The Produceing nations


Errr, I think

dieseljohn

2,114 posts

286 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
Is it possible to invest in oil, surely the way prices are going it would be a good idea?

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
tonyvid said:
Probably a dumb question but where does the money from increased oil prices go to - the pumping and refining costs are probably similar now as they were 6 months ago(hurricanes not taken into account) so is it all extra profit to the oily companies, the oily countries or what?


Upstream ( the bit that gets the oil out of the ground ) makes lots of money.

Downstream ( the bit that refines and sells petrol ) gets less money

Government gets more money through $ per barrel licenses and of course taxation.

driftwood

531 posts

265 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
MILF said:
I agree, mostly to Gordon Brown though since Petrol in this Country is taxed to the hilt.

On a slightly different angle, how many gallons in a standard "barrel" of oil ?



One barrel of oil is the same as:

159 litres (about 80 large fizzy drink bottle)
35 gallons (enough to fit in the petrol tanks of about 4 cars)
280 pints (a lot of bottles of milk)

according to this site:- www.schoolscience.co.uk/content/4/chemistry/petroleum/knowl/4/2index.htm?oilcost.html



>> Edited by driftwood on Friday 23 September 16:48

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
dieseljohn said:
Is it possible to invest in oil, surely the way prices are going it would be a good idea?


Yes Golmans Sachs are launching an ETF ( exchange traded fund ) that offers exposure to oil prices.

tonyvid

Original Poster:

9,889 posts

273 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
MILF said:


On a slightly different angle, how many gallons in a standard "barrel" of oil ?


42 us gallions I think was mentioned on the radio yesterday.

MILF

1,209 posts

275 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
So on average there are 35 gallons in a typical barrel, which at the best part of £5 per gallon in the UK equates to £175.

And the crude unrefined stuff sells for $60, which is roughly £40 !! (Ok, I know thats a bit of an over simplification & they have to pump it, refine it & transport the stuff.....but you get my drift).

No wonder the Sultan of Brunai can afford 3 McLaren F1's !!

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
quotequote all
MILF said:
So on average there are 35 gallons in a typical barrel, which at the best part of £5 per gallon in the UK equates to £175.

And the crude unrefined stuff sells for $60, which is roughly £40 !! (Ok, I know thats a bit of an over simplification & they have to pump it, refine it & transport the stuff.....but you get my drift).

No wonder the Sultan of Brunai can afford 3 McLaren F1's !!


Hmmm given that 75% of that £5 per gallon is tax, i.e. £1.25 per gallon pre tax, that's £43.75 per barrel, just £3.75 more than the crude price.

.....no wonder Gordon Brown can afford to p*ss it all away on welfare and warfare.