Black people in films
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speedy_thrills

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Thursday 15th September 2005
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Why is it that whenever black people are portrayed in films they usually get scripts that require them to talk “like day is straight out da hood, ready to put a cap in anybody’s ass and getting niggaz hooked up all over Compton”. Inevitably if the script does not require this of them then they need to be in humorous situations, what’s wrong with the film industry? Can no one write a decent script for black actor and find a suitable candidate?

billb

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295 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
Why is it that whenever black people are portrayed in films they usually get scripts that require them to talk “like day is straight out da hood, ready to put a cap in anybody’s ass and getting niggaz hooked up all over Compton”. Inevitably if the script does not require this of them then they need to be in humorous situations, what’s wrong with the film industry? Can no one write a decent script for black actor and find a suitable candidate?


surely by specifically writing a script for a black actor only ure being racist....

shadytree

8,291 posts

279 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Ever heard of Denzil Washington , Oscar Winner ?

I agree with billb here. I think you are being the racist

Wouldn't be too upset if a mod closed this thread.
No place for racism on here

>> Edited by shadytree on Thursday 15th September 08:57

speedy_thrills

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Thursday 15th September 2005
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shadytree said:
Ever heard of Denzil Washington , Oscar Winner ?
True actually, didn’t think of him at the time. Mind you he seems to play a “co-starring” role in movies now.

speedy_thrills

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Thursday 15th September 2005
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billb said:
surely by specifically writing a script for a black actor only ure being racist....
I don’t know, would a Jackie Chan film work with a 250lb white bloke?

Seriously I tend to think certain scripts are written for people of different ethnic backgrounds, “The Great Escape” probably wouldn’t have worked that well with Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a captured British POW?

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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speedy_thrills said:

shadytree said:
Ever heard of Denzil Washington , Oscar Winner ?

True actually, didn’t think of him at the time. Mind you he seems to play a “co-starring” role in movies now.


What about Wesley Snipes, or Danny Glover...?

AlexH

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314 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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speedy_thrills said:

Seriously I tend to think certain scripts are written for people of different ethnic backgrounds, “The Great Escape” probably wouldn’t have worked that well with Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a captured British POW?


And saying 'I'll be back' to one of the German guards before escaping would have looked a bit defeatist about the whole project, wouldn't it?

I know what you mean in your original post that there have been an awful lot of 'nz in da hood' type of movies over the last decade, but there have also been alot of other films with black actors in no such light; to Denzel Washington you can also add Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson, Morgan Freeman and Lawrence Fishburne (sp?) amongst others.

dick dastardly

8,326 posts

293 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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I don't think Morgan Freeman's ever had to pimp some ho's either

Carrera2

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262 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
Why is it that whenever black people are portrayed in films they usually get scripts that require them to talk “like day is straight out da hood, ready to put a cap in anybody’s ass and getting niggaz hooked up all over Compton”. Inevitably if the script does not require this of them then they need to be in humorous situations, what’s wrong with the film industry? Can no one write a decent script for black actor and find a suitable candidate?


Utter bollox I'm afraid. There are loads of black actors who dont' act in this way.

wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Aye, not forgetting Yaphet Kotto and the guy who played John Coffey in The Green Mile. I've never seen it, but I hear he is one HUGE ni...

OK so technically Coffey was a criminal, but he wasn't, he'd been framed...

Apparently when Live & Let Die was being filmed, Kotto was at some publicity event and was seen to be using the old 'black power' salute, hardly relevant to the occasion...

shadytree

8,291 posts

279 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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I think this is a stupid and racists thread. I would like it to be known that I take exception to 'Speedy thrills' wording, tone and reasoning here.

IMO you're just being a racist biggot.

Get back to shagging sheep or post sensible threads!!

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

288 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Whilst his wording may have left a lot to be desired and it has been shown to be a slightly naive statement considering all of the well known and respected black actors that have been named since the thread started... I'm afraid I don't see it as being a racist thread.... Is it just me?

This is IMHO and not not to be used to start an argument

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
Why is it that whenever black people are portrayed in films they usually get scripts that require them to talk “like day is straight out da hood, ready to put a cap in anybody’s ass and getting niggaz hooked up all over Compton”. Inevitably if the script does not require this of them then they need to be in humorous situations, what’s wrong with the film industry? Can no one write a decent script for black actor and find a suitable candidate?


Yes. Utter bollox. The great Morgan Freeman. Denzel Washington in "As You Like It". etc etc.

Yes there is the "Huggy Bear" stereotype used in cop movies, 'hood movies, gangsta movies.

But there are also loads of quality films with top grade black actors in. Parts which could have as easily gone to an actor of any race - cast simply because of the quality of what they do.

I select movies to watch/rent on my estimation of the directors and actors involved. There is no race/nationality bias for me. My favourite actors are people like Jean Reno, Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins...

AlexH

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314 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Mrs Fish said:
Whilst his wording may have left a lot to be desired and it has been shown to be a slightly naive statement considering all of the well known and respected black actors that have been named since the thread started... I'm afraid I don't see it as being a racist thread.... Is it just me?

This is IMHO and not not to be used to start an argument


Nope I don't see it as racist...surely the original post is having a go at scriptwriters/producers/directors/casting directors etc? Although as pointed out, I don't think the perception is correct.

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Mrs Fish said:
I'm afraid I don't see it as being a racist thread.... Is it just me?


Nor do I. It started out as a complaint that, in his opinion, black actors were not getting more "serious" parts and were being stereotyped.

I think we've suitably rubbished that assertion.

Now - if we want to be constructive we could recommend some *great* movies in which quality black actors gtet a chance to show off what they can do.

e.g. Seven. Blade.

shadytree

8,291 posts

279 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Ok, sorry maybe a slight over reaction on my part there. It's just a sh*t post from a niave pk

I mean to be so blinkered that black actors get type cast as above... come on get a life and a bigger dvd collection.

NOT HAPPY !!!

krusty

2,473 posts

279 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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shadytree said:
NOT HAPPY !!!


.......... And Breathe...........

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

288 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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As an aside, Morgan Freeman is a god IMO.

I finally got round to watching Shawshank Redemption finally last week.... I know, can't beleive its taken me so long... what an awesome film


As yopu were

FrenchTVR

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297 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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krusty said:

shadytree said:
NOT HAPPY !!!



.......... And Breathe...........


silversun

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256 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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A lot of stereotyping goes on in films because audiences want to see a certain thing, particularly in America. Lots of films flop there, not because they're bad but because they don't conform to the audiences' accepted views.