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Well msolid state drives have existed for a long time. My mates MP3 player is a 40 gb solid state drive, and he's had no problems with it. Not sure how that equates with a computer hard drive, but I'm sure its not too dissimilar when it comes to data retrieval. Can't see a problem to be honest, but if its so great, why hasn't the others followed?
Holy crap that thing is loaded 
2TB hard drive, 6.8Ghz, 1TB RAM
Then again for the price it would want to be, still its running XP, which would slow it down
Reckon it would be able to handle the odd email and surfing of PH?
You could buy a good car for that, or wait a couple of years and get something similar for 500quid from Dell or similar, hell its even assembled in Malaysia just like a Dell
2TB hard drive, 6.8Ghz, 1TB RAM
Then again for the price it would want to be, still its running XP, which would slow it down
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Date Available: January 2006.
Suggested Price: $8500-$15000 (depends on the completeness).
Reckon it would be able to handle the odd email and surfing of PH?
You could buy a good car for that, or wait a couple of years and get something similar for 500quid from Dell or similar, hell its even assembled in Malaysia just like a Dell
andy mac said:
Well msolid state drives have existed for a long time. My mates MP3 player is a 40 gb solid state drive
Do you mean 4Gb ? 40Gb is huge for a solid state drive and would cost thousands of pounds.
The reason solid state discs are not in common use is that the amount of data you can fit onto a HDD per square inch is huge compared to solid state memory also a HDD is generally quicker.
Some PDA type devices, and most mobile phones effectively use a solid state disk for storage this is because they don't need the huge capacity of a traditional HDD.
Ben
andy mac said:
Either way, I wonder why solid state drives aren't used? Surely they would be more reliable?
A guy at work who seems to know a heck of a lot more about computers than I do reckons they are only good for about 100,000 write sessions. Which is fine for an MP3 player that is only written once a day at the most, (would last years) a digital camera is more demanding (100 photos a day = 1000 uses = 4.5years of life roughly).
A Harddrive would be used constantly so would wear out quicker? I'm really not sure but if that is correct then it could be an explanation.
aha found an article comparing HDD to SSD, according to this SSD is good for 300,000 to 1,000,00 writes so not the 100,000 I said before.
www.bitmicro.com/press_resources_war_of_the_disks.php
www.bitmicro.com/press_resources_war_of_the_disks.php
benyeats said:
andy mac said:
Well msolid state drives have existed for a long time. My mates MP3 player is a 40 gb solid state drive
Do you mean 4Gb ? 40Gb is huge for a solid state drive and would cost thousands of pounds.
The reason solid state discs are not in common use is that the amount of data you can fit onto a HDD per square inch is huge compared to solid state memory also a HDD is generally quicker.
Some PDA type devices, and most mobile phones effectively use a solid state disk for storage this is because they don't need the huge capacity of a traditional HDD.
Ben
Ok.. Maybe my definition of solid stae drives is wrong, (I'm no technobuff), but his mp3 player is 40gb (Its a creative touch I think), and it has no moving parts. I thought thats what solid state was? No spinny disk thing, but more like a chip type thing?? I'm probably way off, but thats what I was on about. Apologize if I'm talking shite!
Mine is a much older one with a spinny type drive, and his is silent, and too small for a 40gb drive in it.. >> Edited by andy mac on Thursday 15th September 00:29
andy mac said:
Ok.. Maybe my definition of solid stae drives is wrong, (I'm no technobuff), but his mp3 player is 40gb (Its a creative touch I think), and it has no moving parts. I thought thats what solid state was? No spinny disk thing, but more like a chip type thing?? I'm probably way off, but thats what I was on about. Apologize if I'm talking shite!
>> Edited by andy mac on Thursday 15th September 00:29
I have a Creative Zen Xtra with a 40Gb drive - very quiet but it is a spinning disk, as is the Creative Touch. They are basically the 2.5inch dia, very thin drives foound in most notebooks these days. Solid state unlikely about 4Gb and mostly restricted to 1Gb or less unless paying huge amounts.
R988 said:
Either way, I wonder why solid state drives aren't used? Surely they would be more reliable?
A guy at work who seems to know a heck of a lot more about computers than I do reckons they are only good for about 100,000 write sessions. Which is fine for an MP3 player that is only written once a day at the most, (would last years) a digital camera is more demanding (100 photos a day = 1000 uses = 4.5years of life roughly).
A Harddrive would be used constantly so would wear out quicker? I'm really not sure but if that is correct then it could be an explanation.
No, a hard drive can perform effectively unlimited numbers of write cycles. But it is heavy on power and intolerant of shock and vibration, so not much use for a pocket device.
The Drives used in the iPod and NW-HD3 etc are smaller than the 2.5 inch drive. The Hitachi 1.5 inch is the 20gb/40GB drive and other smaller 1 inch drives are getting 5GB on them. That is where the capacity increases are coming from. As for the Optical technology in this laptop, I believe it is on it's way in some form or other.
>> Edited by telecat on Thursday 15th September 04:22
>> Edited by telecat on Thursday 15th September 04:22
scared but happy said:
So, is this a fake or not? 'cos I am puzzled.
Its an investor trap in my opinion. The technology is just about feasible, i.e. there are probably similar systems running in Intel and AMD labs but due to the way chip manufacturers like to protect their current range of processors its unlikely anything like this will be seen for at least 5-10 years.
Windows XP pro can only access a maximum of 4GB of RAM anyway so even if you did get such a laptop you'd have to wait 20 years for MS to make an OS that could use the resources...
Also check out the pictures on this site... looks real to me
http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page3.html
LongQ said:
Ok.. Maybe my definition of solid stae drives is wrong, (I'm no technobuff), but his mp3 player is 40gb (Its a creative touch I think), and it has no moving parts. I thought thats what solid state was? No spinny disk thing, but more like a chip type thing?? I'm probably way off, but thats what I was on about. Apologize if I'm talking shite!
>> Edited by andy mac on Thursday 15th September 00:29
I have a Creative Zen Xtra with a 40Gb drive - very quiet but it is a spinning disk, as is the Creative Touch. They are basically the 2.5inch dia, very thin drives foound in most notebooks these days. Solid state unlikely about 4Gb and mostly restricted to 1Gb or less unless paying huge amounts.
Maybe I am going deaf then? My Jukebox 3 is pretty obviously a drive, but his one is friggin silent. My mistake! I thought it was a chippy thing.
That laptop is 100% fake.
Quantum memory, optical CPU? These things are at best in labs decades away from consumers at all.
As for solid state drives, theres been ram drives for mainframe and mini computers for a long time, and at silly prices where performance counts.
For home PC's Asus (I think ) have just released an SATA RAM drive that uses up to 4GB of DDR memory, but apart from a total driveless system it seemed a bit pointless from a performance point of view because its still stuck to SATA transfer speeds.
Quantum memory, optical CPU? These things are at best in labs decades away from consumers at all.
As for solid state drives, theres been ram drives for mainframe and mini computers for a long time, and at silly prices where performance counts.
For home PC's Asus (I think ) have just released an SATA RAM drive that uses up to 4GB of DDR memory, but apart from a total driveless system it seemed a bit pointless from a performance point of view because its still stuck to SATA transfer speeds.
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