Revaluation IRO Council Tax?
Discussion
I can't answer your questions but I've had a reassesment form through the post asking questions about whether there have been any changes to my property. My feeling is that it's probably best just to ignore it.
Do they have a right to send a surveyor round? I thought they could only inspect your property from the public road.
Do they have a right to send a surveyor round? I thought they could only inspect your property from the public road.
As far as I understood it the banding is based on the value of the property equivalent to 1992 or thereabouts.
I think they are due to change it soon as they realised they weren't getting enough money off of us for whatever services it's supposed to provide.
I noticed the part relating to the police went up about 70% this year, in my area. with no equivalent increase in visible presence. However, we did get an equivalent increase in dirty thieving vandal scumbags.
I think they are due to change it soon as they realised they weren't getting enough money off of us for whatever services it's supposed to provide.
I noticed the part relating to the police went up about 70% this year, in my area. with no equivalent increase in visible presence. However, we did get an equivalent increase in dirty thieving vandal scumbags.
Mines still sat on my "to do" pile.
All I know is if they put the council tax up, then I want a bloody good library, new "dropped" kurbing so I can get my car into the drive easier, faster police response, cleaner street, filling in the pot holes down the road. Road markings at the end of the Cul de sac etc etc.
Robbing barstewards. Like our services that the council provide have gone up in response to an extension or using a spare room as a bigger bathroom etc.
Don't know why people put up with this governments sh1t to bleed people of even more money for the joys of living in good ol Britain
Dave
All I know is if they put the council tax up, then I want a bloody good library, new "dropped" kurbing so I can get my car into the drive easier, faster police response, cleaner street, filling in the pot holes down the road. Road markings at the end of the Cul de sac etc etc.
Robbing barstewards. Like our services that the council provide have gone up in response to an extension or using a spare room as a bigger bathroom etc.
Don't know why people put up with this governments sh1t to bleed people of even more money for the joys of living in good ol Britain
Dave
Had this when I moved house last year. Since the last banding the house has been extended from a 2-floor 3-bed to a 3-floor 4 bed - i.e. a LOT bigger.
Guy came and assessed and the banding was not changed.
So unless your extension is akin to Balmoral Castle being added I wonder if you'll be ok?
Guy came and assessed and the banding was not changed.
So unless your extension is akin to Balmoral Castle being added I wonder if you'll be ok?
Had an extension done a couple of years back, kitchen/breakfast room & another bedroom. Has a letter through from our local Council the other month regarding revaluation.
Up until now, you could have an extension put on your house & it would only be revalued if you sold it & the next occupants would then have to take the can for it.
On 1st April 2007 this all changes. All properties will be re banded where it is deemed necessary. Some will go up, some will stay the same. No doubt most will go up in banding & price.
And no, it's not an April fool's joke either.
Up until now, you could have an extension put on your house & it would only be revalued if you sold it & the next occupants would then have to take the can for it.
On 1st April 2007 this all changes. All properties will be re banded where it is deemed necessary. Some will go up, some will stay the same. No doubt most will go up in banding & price.
And no, it's not an April fool's joke either.
Monkey Boy 1 said:
On 1st April 2007 this all changes. All properties will be re banded where it is deemed necessary. Some will go up, some will stay the same. No doubt most will go up in banding & price.
You won't have to wait that long to pay more.
I think you people in England get revalued next April. Best of luck! We had it in Wales this April and most places went up 2 or 3 bands.
I'm appealing against mine but speaking to the VOA is a bit like reasoning with a 3 year old:
"Look, your figures are based on the ONE flat sold in our mansion block during the appropriate period. It had 3 bedrooms, mine has 2 so it's worth less"
"It's still a flat though"
Valuation Tribunal (kangaroo court) here I come!!!
VOA=Wnackers!
As a matter of principle can I point out that the person from the Valuation Office who visits to measure the property is extremely unlikely to be a qualified surveyor. The qualified Surveyors are likely to decide on the basis of valuation for the forthcoming revaluation but the actual valuation will either be done by the computer or a technican.
They will still want to know how big the house is if you are in Band H as with the revaluation the start point of bands will change, so you never know you could end up in G, consider it unlikely though!
There is no requirement to respond to the form you recieve when you move in, in fact I positively suggest you don't! If the property has been extended and the Local Authority has not told the VO, then you completeing that form will alert the VO!
Yes you can appeal the banding, either when you move in, or after it is changed, however expect the initial response to be that its right. Stick to your guns you might get it reduced.
Incidentially you can also appeal your banding if their is a material change in circumstances in the locality, although the VO tends to resist this because any allowance cannot be reinstated until the revaluation. However the fact it can't be re-instated is not your problem!
The Government will tell you the effect of the revaluation will be revenue neutral ie the council tax income will be the same the year after as the year before, however bet I am not the only one that suspects something different!
They will still want to know how big the house is if you are in Band H as with the revaluation the start point of bands will change, so you never know you could end up in G, consider it unlikely though!
There is no requirement to respond to the form you recieve when you move in, in fact I positively suggest you don't! If the property has been extended and the Local Authority has not told the VO, then you completeing that form will alert the VO!
Yes you can appeal the banding, either when you move in, or after it is changed, however expect the initial response to be that its right. Stick to your guns you might get it reduced.
Incidentially you can also appeal your banding if their is a material change in circumstances in the locality, although the VO tends to resist this because any allowance cannot be reinstated until the revaluation. However the fact it can't be re-instated is not your problem!
The Government will tell you the effect of the revaluation will be revenue neutral ie the council tax income will be the same the year after as the year before, however bet I am not the only one that suspects something different!
You should worry.
The council insists my house is band A.
It was when it was originally built in 1880.
Trouble is, that one (and its attached 3 other terraced houses) were demolished in 1995 to build my house.
I rang the council when I moved in 6 years ago and told them that my "12 room,3 story, detatched house with 4 acres of land" is not band A.
"Sorry, we don't have an appeals procedure for upping the bands, think yourself lucky", was the reply.
Not looking forward to the rebanding coming soon.
Band A to H I reckon.
The council insists my house is band A.
It was when it was originally built in 1880.
Trouble is, that one (and its attached 3 other terraced houses) were demolished in 1995 to build my house.
I rang the council when I moved in 6 years ago and told them that my "12 room,3 story, detatched house with 4 acres of land" is not band A.
"Sorry, we don't have an appeals procedure for upping the bands, think yourself lucky", was the reply.
Not looking forward to the rebanding coming soon.
Band A to H I reckon.
cazzer said:
The council insists my house is band A.
It was when it was originally built in 1880.
Trouble is, that one (and its attached 3 other terraced houses) were demolished in 1995 to build my house.
I rang the council when I moved in 6 years ago and told them that my "12 room,3 story, detatched house with 4 acres of land" is not band A.
There are times, ole buddy, when it's best to keep your gob SHUT!
simpo two said:
The council insists my house is band A.
It was when it was originally built in 1880.
Trouble is, that one (and its attached 3 other terraced houses) were demolished in 1995 to build my house.
I rang the council when I moved in 6 years ago and told them that my "12 room,3 story, detatched house with 4 acres of land" is not band A.
There are times, ole buddy, when it's best to keep your gob SHUT!
It is entirely possible to appeal as your band is too low, although why anyone would do so is beyond me.
In fact many did, and their theory was that if there band was too low people would think it was less valuable than it was! Seemed to ignore the point that people would be glad it was lo as lower Council Tax to pay!
Incidentially the vast majority of houses in Grimsby are in Band A, didn't stop people seeking a lower band!
anonymous said:
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I think you are right to worry Tonker, I have heard rumours too that they are adding a band at the top and bottom of the existing bands.
However what will really scr*w everyone in the areas where house prices have been rising rapidly is the coming council tax revaluations.
Since retiring, my Father has discovered the wonders of the internet, and found out that council tax bandings for houses were available for anyone to see on the internet. He noticed that his house was in a higher banding than some of the larger houses down his road. Being a stickler, he checked out the guidelines on council tax bandings and decided his house was in the wrong band. After about 3 months of constant badgering of the council and numerous visits by council officials, he not only managed to get the banding reduced, but also got a chunk of money back. So anything is possible if you stick at it.
Incidently after they stuck speed humps down his road (one right outside his house) he thought they were a little on the high/steep side. So he measured them and compared them to the regulations. Turns out the council built them too high and with too great an approachdepart angle. After more discussion with the council he got them dug up and replaced with correctly sized ones. He didn't want a speed hump outside his house in the first place , so certainly wasn't going to let them get away with building one that didn't fit the regulations.
Incidently after they stuck speed humps down his road (one right outside his house) he thought they were a little on the high/steep side. So he measured them and compared them to the regulations. Turns out the council built them too high and with too great an approachdepart angle. After more discussion with the council he got them dug up and replaced with correctly sized ones. He didn't want a speed hump outside his house in the first place , so certainly wasn't going to let them get away with building one that didn't fit the regulations.
anonymous said:
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What they haven't publicised yet is what the new bands will be or indeed whether they will change or not. However the bands are national and therefore the same wherever you are. So if the bands don't change many can expect to go up a band or more, and even if the bands do chenge in areas where properties values have increased more than average (south east anyone?) then those properties are likely to increase a band or more.
In theory though the actual payments on average won;t go up other than due to inflation. This is because your local authority will still require the same amount of money as before, so if the number of houses in the higher bands increase the amount payable for properties in that band should decrease. However something tells me that it won't work like this and we shall see big increases.
Although to be fair I susppose I should point out that following the 2005 Business Rates revaluation the rate in the pound did go down from 0.456 to 0.422 so some people must have benfitted!
chrisgr31 said:
something tells me that it won't work like this and we shall see big increases.
If it's anything like Wales, increases like you won't believe!
chrisgr31 said:
Although to be fair I susppose I should point out that following the 2005 Business Rates revaluation the rate in the pound did go down from 0.456 to 0.422 so some people must have benfitted!
Also in England (and Scotland from 2007)you get a 50% reduction if your RV is less than 5k... not in Wales though!
Welsh Assembly... wan*ers!!!!
chrisgr31 said:
In theory though the actual payments on average won;t go up other than due to inflation. This is because your local authority will still require the same amount of money as before, so if the number of houses in the higher bands increase the amount payable for properties in that band should decrease. However something tells me that it won't work like this and we shall see big increases.
In theory yes, in reality Labour will adjust the local governemnt funding formula (as they have done onece before already) to favour their areas. Therefore the local authorities in many areas, in particular the south, will need to raise more of their funding in council tax.
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