Electrical Wiring question
Electrical Wiring question
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meeja

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8,290 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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Quick question for any of our qualified sparkies....

I have a need to fit a single (or double) socket as a spur from the ringmain in our office.

I am planning to run a single 2.5mm T&E from one of the sockets already on the ringmain to the new extension socket.

Is this the correct way to do it under current legislation for electrical wiring in business premises, or do I need to make the new socket part of the ringmain, or fit a fused spur before the new socket?


Thanks in advance!

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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IIRC you are allowed a couple of sockets wired in this way, per ring main.

dilbert

7,741 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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As far as I'm aware, you are compelled to use a qualified electrician. I think that this has been the case since the beginning of the year.

Your qualified electrician, will give you a certificate of complince, should there be any kind of problem with the installation.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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dilbert said:
As far as I'm aware, you are compelled to use a qualified electrician. I think that this has been the case since the beginning of the year.

Your qualified electrician, will give you a certificate of complince, should there be any kind of problem with the installation.


I thought that was just for external mains wiring..

Anyway, the extra socket was fitted last year, wasn't it ?

dilbert

7,741 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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SS2. said:

dilbert said:
As far as I'm aware, you are compelled to use a qualified electrician. I think that this has been the case since the beginning of the year.

Your qualified electrician, will give you a certificate of complince, should there be any kind of problem with the installation.



I thought that was just for external mains wiring..

Anyway, the extra socket was fitted last year, wasn't it ?


Good show, old bean!

meeja

Original Poster:

8,290 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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SS2. said:

dilbert said:
As far as I'm aware, you are compelled to use a qualified electrician. I think that this has been the case since the beginning of the year.

Your qualified electrician, will give you a certificate of complince, should there be any kind of problem with the installation.



I thought that was just for external mains wiring..

Anyway, the extra socket was fitted last year, wasn't it ?


Those are the answers I was looking for......

Cheers chaps!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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dilbert said:
As far as I'm aware, you are compelled to use a qualified electrician. I think that this has been the case since the beginning of the year.

Your qualified electrician, will give you a certificate of complince, should there be any kind of problem with the installation.


If a qualified electrician does it, it must still be inspected by the Council, at a cost (say £1000 per minute....), but the charge will be less than if you do it yourself.

The only way to avoid such inspection costs is to get a qualified electrician who is also authorised to perform installations. To qualifty for that, I believe he has to be certified after his work has been observed for six months. He has to pay ongoing fees for that little honour, so his charges will be that much higher....

Thanks, Mr Prescott, we really needed these regulations, just like you need another layer of blubber....

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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Is it Prescott or is it the EU? Whoever it is, they need a three-phase installation. One phase in the mouth, one up the arse and one on the nuts...

But anyway, AIUI adding a couple of sockets to an existing circuit is not covered, so no problem.
rsvmilly said:
IIRC you are allowed a couple of sockets wired in this way, per ring main.

Yes... this is a pre-existing regulation about the actual installation, not a new one about inspecting it.

Nevin

2,999 posts

291 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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Ooh, all my electrical work was defintely done prior to the regulations coming into force. Oh yes.

Ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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Nevin said:
Ooh, all my electrical work was defintely done prior to the regulations coming into force. Oh yes.
Hmmm.... in that case I hope the wiring is all with old style RED/BLACK T&E and not the new BROWN/BLUE........

gtr-gaz

5,281 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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Brown/blue has now been superseded by grey/black and brown (I think)

3 dark colours! How crazy is that?

Ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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I thought that grey colour was supposed to be blue....

white_van_man

3,848 posts

279 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/BR-PartP-dwellings.cfm That should answer most of your questions on the new regs

www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/Cable%20Colours%20Leaflet.pdf

And this explains the new cable colours.
Basically you can use the old colours untill the end of the year, then after that you are 'meant' to use the new colours but lets face it, if we are adding on a socket after 2006 we are going to use the old colours just to save confusion, and if your asked...it was put in before 2006!!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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gtr-gaz said:
Brown/blue has now been superseded by grey/black and brown (I think)

3 dark colours! How crazy is that?



About as crazy as the EU.....