Pain, its all in the mind
Pain, its all in the mind
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r988

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7,495 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4215078.stm

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[b]Positive thinking a pain reliever[/b]
Expectations about pain can affect its intensity
US experts say they have strong scientific proof that mind over matter works for relieving pain.

Positive thinking was as powerful as a shot of morphine for relieving pain and reduced activity in parts of the brain that process pain information.

The Wake Forest University researchers say their findings show that by merely expecting pain to be less it will be less.

Their work is published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

[b]Positive thinking[/b]

Dr Robert Coghill and his team studied 10 normal, healthy volunteers who had a heat simulator applied to their legs while their brains were being scanned using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI).

The heat simulator was used to produce pain and fMRI was used to map brain activity.

Before subjects underwent brain imaging, they learned to expect mild, moderate, or severe painful heat stimuli following different signals. None of the stimuli were hot enough to cause burns or damage the skin.

During brain imaging, a small percentage of the severe stimuli were incorrectly signalled as moderate stimuli to create expectations of decreased pain.

All 10 volunteers reported less pain when they expected lower levels of pain.

These expectations reduced reports of pain by more than 28% - similar to an analgesic dose of the potent painkiller morphine.

At the same time, activity in areas of the brain important to both sensory and emotional processing of pain decreased. These areas included the primary somatosensory cortex, the insular cortex and the anterior cingulate cortex.

[b]More than just pills[/b]

Dr Coghill explained: "Pain is not solely the result of signals coming from an injured body region.

"Pain needs to be treated with more than just pills. The brain can powerfully shape pain, and we need to exploit its power."

He said the findings underscored the potential of cognitive therapy for the treatment of pain.


This study goes some way to explaining the positive impact of these psychological techniques in chronic pain states
Dr Beverly Collette, president of the British Pain Society

Dr Ed Keogh, a psychologist and pain researcher from the University of Bath, said: "For some time now we have known that psychological factors such as expectations play a role in the perception and experience of pain.

"This work is intriguing as it aims to identify specific brain regions linked to both the pain experience and expectations associated with pain.

"By empirically demonstrating such links, such research adds weight to the notion that how we think can effect what we feel. This is turn may have important implications for the way in which we prepare people for potentially painful events such as going to the dentist, childbirth or an operation."

Dr Beverly Collette, president of the British Pain Society, said: "Most people who work in pain clinics use cognitive therapy to help people manage their pain better.

"This study goes some way to explaining the positive impact of these psychological techniques in chronic pain states. "[/quote]

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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It works With practice you can think pain away or convert it to another sensation.

shadowninja

80,068 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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I know a technique based on acupuncture that helps

plug

1,136 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Done this to my leg at work last friday with a stanley knife, I did not feel a thing, the only time I was in pain was when I got a tetnis jab, that made my arm hurt for a couple of days.

Mutant Rat

9,939 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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shadowninja said:
I know a technique based on acupuncture that helps


I know a technique based on malt whiskey that works even better!

petros

2,441 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Positive thinking ? right, I'm positive that when I cut my wrist open on my windscreen it bloody well hurt !!!

Trooper2

6,676 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Has anyone else seen the experiments done were electrodes are placed on a persons scalp and the other end is attached to the track of a model railroad, with practice the subjects can actually get the train to move. Amazing if you think about it.

And not just pain relief but the minds power to heal.
Or if it wasn't for the brains ability for split second timing we would fall flat on our faces when we tried to walk. The human mind astonishes me.

David A

3,725 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Positive thinking for hardcore abcess type toothache - bo****ks - JD and some codine based painkillers do the trick and some melatonin to get you thru the night.

Now whats those good painkillers you can get over the counter in the middle east?? Must stock up!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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plug said:
Done this to my leg at work last friday with a stanley knife, I did not feel a thing, the only time I was in pain was when I got a tetnis jab, that made my arm hurt for a couple of days.


Call those stitches......



Now that's what I call a bit of sewing

Trooper2

6,676 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Oh and it might work on pain but try it on diarrhea sometime.

mrsmadmark

3,545 posts

253 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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plug said:
Done this to my leg at work last friday with a stanley knife, I did not feel a thing, the only time I was in pain was when I got a tetnis jab, that made my arm hurt for a couple of days.


tetanus is normally given in the buttock, still hurts but not as much, I believe.
I see you might be going to the tunnel run, if you've still got your sutures by then, I'm a dab hand at taking them out I'll bring my scissors



plug

1,136 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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I an having the stiches out today, so I have taken the day off. I havent had my car back from TVR Power yet so I don't think I am going to make the tunnel run. I went on it last time so I know what I am missing, it was a good day out.

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

269 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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i saw a rather disturbing video of a woman giving birth a while ago who was using this technique- no screaming, no crying, nothing. very very weird, but i guess it can work!

chris

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

270 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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plug said:
I an having the stiches out today, so I have taken the day off.


Real men pull the stiches out themselves and don't miss a day's work in the process.

Even my 6 year old daughter removed her own sutures.

funinthesun

1,170 posts

295 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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stitches are for small girls indeed, now try taking out staples on your own, thats much more interesting...

plug

1,136 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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It just an excuse to have a day off, not that I normally need one. Plus the weather is nice so I thought b*****ks to work today.

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

267 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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hammerwerfer said:

plug said:
I an having the stiches out today, so I have taken the day off.



Real men pull the stiches out themselves and don't miss a day's work in the process.

Ideally in front of the lady with the weakest stomach in the office