Why is music so expensive
Discussion
Take this as an example
Deep Blue, 2 disk DVD £7.99
Deep Blue, CD (soundtrack) £11.99
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=hp&page=title&r=R2&title=179091
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The DVD has Scene specific audio commentaries from directors Alastair Fothergill and Andy Byatt
'The Making Of Deep Blue': a behind the scenes documentary (50 mins)
[b]Isolated music and effects score[/b]
Interview With composer George Fenton
Stills gallery
Educational interactive DVD-ROM content
So how come the CD is £4 more expensive even though the DVD has 2 disk and has larger packaging
Deep Blue, 2 disk DVD £7.99
Deep Blue, CD (soundtrack) £11.99
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=hp&page=title&r=R2&title=179091
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The DVD has Scene specific audio commentaries from directors Alastair Fothergill and Andy Byatt
'The Making Of Deep Blue': a behind the scenes documentary (50 mins)
[b]Isolated music and effects score[/b]
Interview With composer George Fenton
Stills gallery
Educational interactive DVD-ROM content
So how come the CD is £4 more expensive even though the DVD has 2 disk and has larger packaging
Seems a lot more work, effort, people, advertisingh and support goes into movies over music, both cost about the same to physicaly produce.
Anyone have sales data on comparative hit movies to CD's? prehaps the cost are spread over more DVD's than CD's.
Or the music industry is a money grabbing bunch of highwaymen.
Anyone have sales data on comparative hit movies to CD's? prehaps the cost are spread over more DVD's than CD's.
Or the music industry is a money grabbing bunch of highwaymen.
robdickinson said:
Seems a lot more work, effort, people, advertisingh and support goes into movies over music, both cost about the same to physicaly produce.
Anyone have sales data on comparative hit movies to CD's? prehaps the cost are spread over more DVD's than CD's.
Or the music industry is a money grabbing bunch of highwaymen.
I've made my views known on this subject before and it sits close to your last sentence
BUT, for films, you also have the box-office revenues which are higher than (I guess) your average band tour takings. In a way, the DVD sales are just icing on the cake whereas its sort of the other way about for music (for the label anyway).
robdickinson said:
Or the music industry is a money grabbing bunch of highwaymen.
Is it any wonder people are pirating their music (peer-to-peer file sharing, dodgy CD's from Thailand, etc...).
But then I'd imagine these activities affect CD sales and in return, profits for the record companies. So the industry has to make it up somehow, hence the extortionate prices of CD's. It's a vicious circle, really.
But then I'm not too bothered, as there's nothing out these days that I really feel compelled to buy.
I've somewhat stoped buying CD's when they broke the CD standard and started misseling me copy protected almost compatable disks instead.
I dont mind downloading music, I used to buy the stuff I engoyed (I'm a HiFi fan, dont want to listen at home to badly done 128k mp3's) but I refuse to be treated like a criminal and ripped off for it.
I dont mind downloading music, I used to buy the stuff I engoyed (I'm a HiFi fan, dont want to listen at home to badly done 128k mp3's) but I refuse to be treated like a criminal and ripped off for it.
I stopped buying CD's ages ago and just ripped my mates. Then along came CD-WOW and the price dropped to a very reasonable £6.99 for most of the CD's I want. Guess what, I started buying them again. If the music industry gets greedy, it only serves to harm their own profits.
Should the prices become unrealistic again, I'll just stop buying it and go back to ripping.
Should the prices become unrealistic again, I'll just stop buying it and go back to ripping.
neil.b said:
BUT, for films, you also have the box-office revenues which are higher than (I guess) your average band tour takings. In a way, the DVD sales are just icing on the cake whereas its sort of the other way about for music (for the label anyway).
NOPE! Box office money is a pitance thesedays for movie companies. They make at most 20% of the cash from the cinema, the big earner is in home DVD sales.
BliarOut said:
I stopped buying CD's ages ago and just ripped my mates. Then along came CD-WOW and the price dropped to a very reasonable £6.99 for most of the CD's I want. Guess what, I started buying them again. If the music industry gets greedy, it only serves to harm their own profits.
Should the prices become unrealistic again, I'll just stop buying it and go back to ripping.
Same here. Overpricing forced me to look elsewhere for my music and I now spend most of my money at independents such as Boomkat and CD Baby.
The irony being, as its not often you find "chart music" at either of these shops, not only have I've discovered many new non-mainstream artists much more worthy of my cash but also because of that, I'm not spending my money on the very "artsits" that all these "anti-piracy" measures are supposed to protect.
Ho ho ho.
neil.b said:
BUT, for films, you also have the box-office revenues which are higher than (I guess) your average band tour takings. In a way, the DVD sales are just icing on the cake whereas its sort of the other way about for music (for the label anyway).
The thing is this is a soundtrack CD. I assume the artist would have been paid via a lump sum or royalties on the sale of the DVD.
If someone buys the DVD then buys the CD they are basically buying the same music twice, but the CD is more expensive and does not include the film.
I think one of the extras you should get on a DVD should be the theme music that you could play on a CD player.
robdickinson said:
BUT, for films, you also have the box-office revenues which are higher than (I guess) your average band tour takings. In a way, the DVD sales are just icing on the cake whereas its sort of the other way about for music (for the label anyway).
NOPE! Box office money is a pitance thesedays for movie companies. They make at most 20% of the cash from the cinema, the big earner is in home DVD sales.
Thats why Equilibrium never got properly released in the UK
"The film was not given a wide release because it had already run into profit as a result of overseas sales, and Miramax didn't want to risk turning a money maker into a loss."
robdickinson said:
BUT, for films, you also have the box-office revenues which are higher than (I guess) your average band tour takings. In a way, the DVD sales are just icing on the cake whereas its sort of the other way about for music (for the label anyway).
NOPE! Box office money is a pitance thesedays for movie companies. They make at most 20% of the cash from the cinema, the big earner is in home DVD sales.
Wow, 20%....that's quite surprising.
To be honest, I didn't actually subscribe to what I said, I just offered it as a possible reason for the pricing. I know from my own company's experience that box-office takings are currently at some all-time low. Perhaps they've made their own bed by offering consumers a cheaper (try going to the the cinema for £11.99....unless you go by yourself) and more convenient way to watch films. Perhaps it will be the death of cinema? Oh no, sorry, that's the evil film downloaders that are to blame for that. Of course.
neil.b said:
Perhaps they've made their own bed by offering consumers a cheaper (try going to the the cinema for £11.99....unless you go by yourself) and more convenient way to watch films.
The other thing is DVD's tend to come out at a stupidly high price. The RRP on the new Batman Film is supposed to be £22.99
but everyone sells it cheaper. Play.com have currently priced it at £15.99 but over time even that price with reduce and you will find it in the 3 for £20 section of Play.com, might take a year though. CD's on the other hand never seem to reduce in price, even old CD's are still over £10
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