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This is probably a silly question but here goes.If I buy a bottle of 18 year old whisky and keep it for ,say, 7 years is it still an 18 year old or is it now 25 year old?What I'm trying to say is does whisky continue to age when in the bottle like it does in the cask it is stored in?
esselte said:No it's all about taking it's flavour from the wood of the cask in which it's matured.
This is probably a silly question but here goes.If I buy a bottle of 18 year old whisky and keep it for ,say, 7 years is it still an 18 year old or is it now 25 year old?What I'm trying to say is does whisky continue to age when in the bottle like it does in the cask it is stored in?
simpo two said:
Don't know, but if it's like champagne then it's designed to be drunk when you buy it. It's already done the correct amount of maturing.
NOOOOOOO!
I take it all back regarding ginger marmalde & cats....
Champers improves with bottle age. Ideally at least 6 months.
Most "name" houses (the bulk brands) are releasing NV Champagne too young to keep up with demand.
What you say used to be true, but now I'd recommend keeping it in the rack for a while.
Fat chance for me - can't afford it anyhow
Malt whisky stops ageing when it's bottled - as mentioned above it's the interaction with the cask that gives the depth of flavour, also the "angels share" (evapration in the cask) takes the edge off the spirity harshness.
Chris
JonRB said:
It will be a whisky that was matured for 18 years and which is 25 years old.
Not necessarily - you have no way of telling how long has passed between it being bottled and you buying it.
As has already been noted, its the length of time spent maturing in wood that is written on the bottle. Once in glass it (a) stops changing its flavour and (b) stops evaporatnig (assuming you put the cork back in!)
JonRB said:
If I buy a bottle of 18 year old whisky and keep it for ,say, 7 years is it still an 18 year old or is it now 25 year old?
It will be both. It will be a whisky that was matured for 18 years and which is 25 years old.
Or, more confusingly, a 25 year-old 18 year whisky.
Bit like a bloke whose 32 but stopped maturing at 18
These are what you want. Loverly 
Glenury-Royal 13yo (80 proof, Cadenhead, bottled 1979)
Colour: gold. Nose: quite spirity and very oaky attack (freshly sawn oak plank). Not very expressive right at the start but it then develops very nicely, on tea and gooseberries….
It then gets a little minty, with also some notes of camphor and turpentine, all that with a perfect balance and lots of vivacity after all these years in glass. Playful and highly enjoyable, with a very long development on lots of various ‘micro-aromas’. Mouth: woody attack, but it’s nice wood. Then we have a superb mix of fresh mint, white pepper and liquorice. Wow, that’s pretty nice! Not monstrously complex but so satisfying, special, with a perfect roundness. Quite some marzipan. The finish is long, the malt keeps developing on olive oil and lemon seeds. The nose was very nice but the mouth is fantastic. A beautiful Glenury.
Glenury-Royal 30yo 1973/2003 (50.7%, Blackadder Raw Cask, cask #6861)
Colour: light gold. Nose: similar to the ‘old young’ Cadenhead, just a little more on almond milk and orgeat syrup. Very nicely herbal, with some notes of camomile tea, Chinese green tea. Some beautiful oak. Also some notes of apple skin, and almost as waxy as an old Clynelish, paraffin. Also whiffs of peat. A perfect cleanliness and a great balance, wow! Mouth: superb attack, very punchy, on bitter chocolate and white pepper. Again some bitter almonds. A bit too cardboardy and very, very waxy. A great bitterness (if you like that), with also lots of roasted Japanese tea (Hojicha). A superb profile, I think, but it might not please the lovers of big peat and big sherry. Just lacks a little definition when compared with the Cadenhead.
Glenury-Royal 13yo (80 proof, Cadenhead, bottled 1979)
Colour: gold. Nose: quite spirity and very oaky attack (freshly sawn oak plank). Not very expressive right at the start but it then develops very nicely, on tea and gooseberries….
It then gets a little minty, with also some notes of camphor and turpentine, all that with a perfect balance and lots of vivacity after all these years in glass. Playful and highly enjoyable, with a very long development on lots of various ‘micro-aromas’. Mouth: woody attack, but it’s nice wood. Then we have a superb mix of fresh mint, white pepper and liquorice. Wow, that’s pretty nice! Not monstrously complex but so satisfying, special, with a perfect roundness. Quite some marzipan. The finish is long, the malt keeps developing on olive oil and lemon seeds. The nose was very nice but the mouth is fantastic. A beautiful Glenury.
Glenury-Royal 30yo 1973/2003 (50.7%, Blackadder Raw Cask, cask #6861)
Colour: light gold. Nose: similar to the ‘old young’ Cadenhead, just a little more on almond milk and orgeat syrup. Very nicely herbal, with some notes of camomile tea, Chinese green tea. Some beautiful oak. Also some notes of apple skin, and almost as waxy as an old Clynelish, paraffin. Also whiffs of peat. A perfect cleanliness and a great balance, wow! Mouth: superb attack, very punchy, on bitter chocolate and white pepper. Again some bitter almonds. A bit too cardboardy and very, very waxy. A great bitterness (if you like that), with also lots of roasted Japanese tea (Hojicha). A superb profile, I think, but it might not please the lovers of big peat and big sherry. Just lacks a little definition when compared with the Cadenhead.
406 said:But do they go with American Dry Ginger?
These are what you want. Loverly
Glenury-Royal 13yo (80 proof, Cadenhead, bottled 1979)
Colour: gold. Nose: quite spirity and very oaky attack (freshly sawn oak plank). Not very expressive right at the start but it then develops very nicely, on tea and gooseberries….
It then gets a little minty, with also some notes of camphor and turpentine, all that with a perfect balance and lots of vivacity after all these years in glass. Playful and highly enjoyable, with a very long development on lots of various ‘micro-aromas’. Mouth: woody attack, but it’s nice wood. Then we have a superb mix of fresh mint, white pepper and liquorice. Wow, that’s pretty nice! Not monstrously complex but so satisfying, special, with a perfect roundness. Quite some marzipan. The finish is long, the malt keeps developing on olive oil and lemon seeds. The nose was very nice but the mouth is fantastic. A beautiful Glenury.
Glenury-Royal 30yo 1973/2003 (50.7%, Blackadder Raw Cask, cask #6861)
Colour: light gold. Nose: similar to the ‘old young’ Cadenhead, just a little more on almond milk and orgeat syrup. Very nicely herbal, with some notes of camomile tea, Chinese green tea. Some beautiful oak. Also some notes of apple skin, and almost as waxy as an old Clynelish, paraffin. Also whiffs of peat. A perfect cleanliness and a great balance, wow! Mouth: superb attack, very punchy, on bitter chocolate and white pepper. Again some bitter almonds. A bit too cardboardy and very, very waxy. A great bitterness (if you like that), with also lots of roasted Japanese tea (Hojicha). A superb profile, I think, but it might not please the lovers of big peat and big sherry. Just lacks a little definition when compared with the Cadenhead.
Only joking!
Highland Park single cask releases ar wonderful. Dark coloured and richly flavoured.
Whiskeis of the World at Heathrow do a fabulous 22 year old Port Ellen (a defunct Islay distillery). Smoky, peaty and rich, but not quite so iodiney as Lagavulin or Laphroaig. Very limited quantities and it's expensive (£100, but it is cask strength).
Whiskeis of the World at Heathrow do a fabulous 22 year old Port Ellen (a defunct Islay distillery). Smoky, peaty and rich, but not quite so iodiney as Lagavulin or Laphroaig. Very limited quantities and it's expensive (£100, but it is cask strength).
406 said:
Nose: quite spirity and very oaky attack (freshly sawn oak plank). Not very expressive right at the start but it then develops very nicely, on tea and gooseberries….
It then gets a little minty, with also some notes of camphor and turpentine, all that with a perfect balance and lots of vivacity after all these years in glass. Playful and highly enjoyable, with a very long development on lots of various ‘micro-aromas’. Mouth: woody attack, but it’s nice wood. Then we have a superb mix of fresh mint, white pepper and liquorice. Wow, that’s pretty nice! Not monstrously complex but so satisfying, special, with a perfect roundness. Quite some marzipan.
Carcoats Damphands goes posh eh?
I have to be in just the right mood for either of those. 
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