2001: A Space Odyssey - great movie, but please explain...
2001: A Space Odyssey - great movie, but please explain...
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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

267 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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...the ending to me.

I must have watched the movie half a dozen times, plus the sequel - "2010" - a similar number. Both great movies. On holiday recently I read the third book by Arthur C Clark - "2063".

However, I still can't get my head round the ending of 2001. Can anyone explain it to me in 'Janet & John' terms?

Killer2005

20,598 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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the book was better than the film

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Killer2005 said:
the book was better than the film


Significantly.

scared but happy

24,147 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Don said:

Killer2005 said:
the book was better than the film



Significantly.

Funny you should both say that but I found that with the Exorcist.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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srebbe64 said:
...the ending to me.

I must have watched the movie half a dozen times, plus the sequel - "2010" - a similar number. Both great movies. On holiday recently I read the third book by Arthur C Clark - "2063".

However, I still can't get my head round the ending of 2001. Can anyone explain it to me in 'Janet & John' terms?



Done the same, watched and own the first two so watched alot, then read the 3rd book.

Kinda ruins it imho. I think the 3rd book really goes off on a tangent from what the original books were about?

I'm gonna have to read 2001.

Dave

Eric Mc

125,675 posts

295 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Read the novel 2001 - it explains a lot.

I was a real 2001 nut 20 odd years ago and devoured as much as I could about the film and book.

If you can get hold of it 2nd hand, Clarke wrote a very interesting book called "The Lost Worlds of 2001" which goes into loads of detail as to how the book and film co-evolved at the same time over the 1964-68 time period. It also goes into a lot of the original drafted scenes in both book and film that in the end, were left out as both Clarke and Kubrick thought they might be OVER explanatory.

Also, more easily obtainable are the short stories "The Sentinel" and "Encounter in the Dawn". Both were written in the 1950s and both provided the springboard for the concepts used in "2001". I have seen a new collection of Clarke's short stories currently on sale and I'm pretty sure both these stories are included.

Interesting stuff.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 25th August 12:35

mr_tony

6,351 posts

299 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Eric Mc said:
Read the novel 2001 - it explains a lot.
Also, more easily obtainable are the short stories "The Sentinel" and "Encounter in the Dawn".


Sentinel is a total classic IMHO!

Yeah read the book - it's not easily explainable...

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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2001 is way better than the movie, which is saying something, as the movie is friggin brilliant!

Eric Mc

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295 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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There are some interesting differences between the movie and the book. Clarke originally intended that Saturn be the target planet of the Discovery space mission. Kubrick balked at the idea of having to provide special effects for the rings of Saturn (this was 1964 after all) so selected Jupiter as the target planet instead.

Clarke stuck with Saturn for the novel - because he wanted to incoporate the weird brightness difference which was always associated with the moon Iapetus into the plot. By pure coincidence, it's only in the last few months that we have had our first close up views of this odd two tone moon - and it really is strange.

raftom

1,309 posts

291 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Some suspicious things happening in the background are finaly explained here:

www.prometheus-music.com/audio/2001-movie-parody.mp3

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Eric Mc said:

Clarke stuck with Saturn for the novel - because he wanted to incoporate the weird brightness difference which was always associated with the moon Iapetus into the plot. By pure coincidence, it's only in the last few months that we have had our first close up views of this odd two tone moon - and it really is strange.


Got any piccies Eric?

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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liked 'Rigsby' in it

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Was that a reply to my asking for piccies? If not ignore me, if it was, thanks, but was a request for piccies of Iapetus!

2 Smokin Barrels

32,020 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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The word halitosis was invented in this film. Apparently it was a parody of the Chief Exec of IBM who famously had bad breath.

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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"Andymac, I think you need to take a streepill, and think things over, really I do"


"Daisy,DAAzy, givvvmeyouuuurannnserdoooooo"

FunkyNige

9,821 posts

305 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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andy mac said:
Was that a reply to my asking for piccies? If not ignore me, if it was, thanks, but was a request for piccies of Iapetus!


http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=iapetus&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Cheers... Thought Eric, being the resident spacey guru chap, would have some of the real good piccies!

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Oh right,


did that become 'Europa' in the film!

andy mac

73,668 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Yup...

And...

hal·i·to·sis (hăl'ĭ-tō'sĭs) pronunciation
n.

The condition of having stale or foul-smelling breath.

[Latin hālitus, breath (akin to hālāre, to breathe) + –OSIS.]

>> Edited by andy mac on Thursday 25th August 21:36