Questions about Germany
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Any Professional Automotive engineers here work or have ever worked in Germany?
What kind of a salary can an experienced engineer in R and D expect to earn?
For that matter- is income highly taxed? Stealth taxes? I've seen conflicting and confusing information but most says around 45%? :yikes:
Are house prices high around the Frankfurt region? What about rent?
Can one expect a nice, quiet rural lifestyle somewhere in the country-garage space and some land? Or does nearly everyone live in Flats?
Are you allowed to modify the engine of your own car out there?
How much can you pick up Porsche 993TTs out there?
What about 993GT2s?
993RSs?
Any helpful info would be appreciated!
Ta!
What kind of a salary can an experienced engineer in R and D expect to earn?
For that matter- is income highly taxed? Stealth taxes? I've seen conflicting and confusing information but most says around 45%? :yikes:
Are house prices high around the Frankfurt region? What about rent?
Can one expect a nice, quiet rural lifestyle somewhere in the country-garage space and some land? Or does nearly everyone live in Flats?
Are you allowed to modify the engine of your own car out there?
How much can you pick up Porsche 993TTs out there?
What about 993GT2s?
993RSs?
Any helpful info would be appreciated!
Ta!
Good evening, Rex.
Only a few days ago, the 2005 statistic with engineer's salaries has been published by the VDI. Brief version here, as well as PDF-download of full version
The automotive sector has the highest salaries, civil engineering the lowest.
In automotive, salaries vary between €45k for a staffer to €70k for a department's manager. From my experience, there are drastic differences between companies. Tycho pays significantly less than Bosch for the same position, as I heard from a colleague.
House prices around Frankfurt are lower than rural south east UK imho. Renting isn't necessarily more expensive than buying; it's very common in Germany to rent.
Rural life around Frankurt is not the same as in the UK. Most villages are satellites for commuters. Some are row housed, others have more villas. Taunus in the NW of Frankfurt is very nice and popular with expats. The Rhein-Main area has a big density of inhabitants, so you'd have to travel a bit further for more ruralness (cow shit on the streets
) and lower house prices.
The highest rate is 42%, for what you earn above ~€52k. This means, total income tax reaches ~42% when you earn more than €52million. €52k pays 26.7% and €104k pays 34.4%.
Social insurances, however, will cost a lot of money. There's no such central thing like the NHS, but you must pay health insurance, when you earn less than €46,800; above that you're free to choose. Other social insurances come on top.
Imho, consumer prices are a lot lower than in the UK. German buyers tend to be tight gits, so discounters are popular in all social classes, and markets generally do have more competitive fights.
You are allowed to modify your engine, when the TÜV approves. Strictly interpreted, this means you must use no other than certified parts. Modifications are then documented in your car's papers.
Porker prices are best researched in www.mobile.de or www.autoscout24.de
You're not going to work for a company with yellow in their logo, do you?
Only a few days ago, the 2005 statistic with engineer's salaries has been published by the VDI. Brief version here, as well as PDF-download of full version
The automotive sector has the highest salaries, civil engineering the lowest.
In automotive, salaries vary between €45k for a staffer to €70k for a department's manager. From my experience, there are drastic differences between companies. Tycho pays significantly less than Bosch for the same position, as I heard from a colleague.
House prices around Frankfurt are lower than rural south east UK imho. Renting isn't necessarily more expensive than buying; it's very common in Germany to rent.
Rural life around Frankurt is not the same as in the UK. Most villages are satellites for commuters. Some are row housed, others have more villas. Taunus in the NW of Frankfurt is very nice and popular with expats. The Rhein-Main area has a big density of inhabitants, so you'd have to travel a bit further for more ruralness (cow shit on the streets
) and lower house prices. The highest rate is 42%, for what you earn above ~€52k. This means, total income tax reaches ~42% when you earn more than €52million. €52k pays 26.7% and €104k pays 34.4%.
Social insurances, however, will cost a lot of money. There's no such central thing like the NHS, but you must pay health insurance, when you earn less than €46,800; above that you're free to choose. Other social insurances come on top.
Imho, consumer prices are a lot lower than in the UK. German buyers tend to be tight gits, so discounters are popular in all social classes, and markets generally do have more competitive fights.
You are allowed to modify your engine, when the TÜV approves. Strictly interpreted, this means you must use no other than certified parts. Modifications are then documented in your car's papers.
Porker prices are best researched in www.mobile.de or www.autoscout24.de
You're not going to work for a company with yellow in their logo, do you?
Bodo said:
Good evening, Rex.
Only a few days ago, the 2005 statistic with engineer's salaries has been published by the VDI. Brief version here, as well as PDF-download of full version
The automotive sector has the highest salaries, civil engineering the lowest.
In automotive, salaries vary between €45k for a staffer to €70k for a department's manager. From my experience, there are drastic differences between companies. Tycho pays significantly less than Bosch for the same position, as I heard from a colleague.
House prices around Frankfurt are lower than rural south east UK imho. Renting isn't necessarily more expensive than buying; it's very common in Germany to rent.
Rural life around Frankurt is not the same as in the UK. Most villages are satellites for commuters. Some are row housed, others have more villas. Taunus in the NW of Frankfurt is very nice and popular with expats. The Rhein-Main area has a big density of inhabitants, so you'd have to travel a bit further for more ruralness (cow shit on the streets
The highest rate is 42%, for what you earn above ~€52k. This means, total income tax reaches ~42% when you earn more than €52million. €52k pays 26.7% and €104k pays 34.4%.
Social insurances, however, will cost a lot of money. There's no such central thing like the NHS, but you must pay health insurance, when you earn less than €46,800; above that you're free to choose. Other social insurances come on top.
Imho, consumer prices are a lot lower than in the UK. German buyers tend to be tight gits, so discounters are popular in all social classes, and markets generally do have more competitive fights.
You are allowed to modify your engine, when the TÜV approves. Strictly interpreted, this means you must use no other than certified parts. Modifications are then documented in your car's papers.
Porker prices are best researched in www.mobile.de or www.autoscout24.de
You're not going to work for a company with yellow in their logo, do you?
Thanks for the help mate.
I'm not going to work for anyone at the moment, just keeping an open mind really.
Potentially the taxes may eat into my salary too much, if the salary range you quoted is accurate.
Jnr said:
If you do go come across to work, one thing is very important.
When ever asked or filling in forms about your religon you must put NONE.
If you put anything other than that you will automatically have to pay an additional church tax!!!
Well, that's OK as long as you're good at fishing...
MR,
for powertrain you can expect about €60k, with bonuses & O/T taking it up to €90k in a good year. Tax and NI deductions are about 50% for a single and about 40% for a smiug married (unless you both earn similar salary). I can check this in detail if necessary.
Accomodation is expensive in Munich, 2-bed appartment circa €300k, semi-detatched €500k. Frankfurt is probably lower, but that's a guide.
Don't under-estimate the language barrier.
for powertrain you can expect about €60k, with bonuses & O/T taking it up to €90k in a good year. Tax and NI deductions are about 50% for a single and about 40% for a smiug married (unless you both earn similar salary). I can check this in detail if necessary.
Accomodation is expensive in Munich, 2-bed appartment circa €300k, semi-detatched €500k. Frankfurt is probably lower, but that's a guide.
Don't under-estimate the language barrier.
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